Carolina Eyck, renowned superstar of the theremin

(smh.com.au)

87 points | by asdefghyk 5 days ago ago

63 comments

  • brudgers 4 days ago ago
  • alexjplant 3 days ago ago

    "Good Vibrations" was actually recorded using an Electro-Theremin [1] (emphasis mine). It was essentially the same but sported more traditional knob controls. Also if you ever hear a Theremin-esque noise in an Elmer Bernstein soundtrack like "Heavy Metal" it was actually an Ondes Martenot [2] which is distinct from and less similar to the classic Theremin.

    I'm a lot of fun at parties.

    [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electro-Theremin

    [2] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ondes_Martenot

    • dr_kiszonka 2 days ago ago

      Chatting with a theremin expert would easily beat the vast majority of my party conversations.

      • CoastalCoder 2 days ago ago

        I dunno, their explanations would probably be all hand-wavy.

  • fxj 3 days ago ago

    There are still several companies who build it. Get one from Doepfer (German Manufacturer) here and connect it to a modular system or a semi-modular synth like a mini moog.

    https://www.thomann.de/de/doepfer_a178.htm

    https://doepfer.de/a178.htm

    live in action: https://youtu.be/1mIferngPqY

    or from stylophone:

    https://www.thomann.de/de/duebreq_stylophone_theremin.htm

    live in action: https://youtu.be/NNn-se0S4Ww

    • Al-Khwarizmi 3 days ago ago

      As a now inactive theremin player (but I will go back at some point!) I'm sad to learn that Moog isn't making real theremins anymore (the theremini isn't one).

      The Moog Etherwave (Standard/Plus) wasn't the best theremin, but it was always extremely solid in terms of bang for the buck, a standard, easy to set up, reliable option with lots of other players you could ask for help, accessories (carry bag, mods, etc.) so it was the most logical recommendation for most newcomers.

      There were (and probably still are) great choices from smaller makers as well, in fact I own one in addition to my Moog, but they were more adventurous choices that didn't offer the reliability and newbie-friendliness of the Moog at a comparable price. Many players would have their pet underdog theremin that they would personally use and prefer to the Moog, but would still recommend the Moog to newcomers because you just couldn't go wrong with it, and others were either expensive, fickle, unsupported, inconsistent quality, difficult to set up, difficult to source, etc. I don't know if newer options will have changed this.

    • Intermernet 3 days ago ago

      OpenTheremin is great. I have a v3 (which I'm trying to port to TinyGo for fun) but v4 is apparently awesome.

      https://www.gaudi.ch/OpenTheremin/

    • tgv 3 days ago ago

      Lost Volts too: http://lostvolts.co.uk/

    • av500 3 days ago ago

      the Doepfer A187 I returned immediately, it's barely usable. I got the OpenTheremin instead and I love it

  • srean 3 days ago ago

    "The Thing" Requires a mandatory mention [0]. Same principles and same designer.

    It was a very sophisticated covert listening device (bug) for its time that went undetected for a long time. It did not have a conventional power source such as a battery or mains connection.

    My first intro to this was the fascinating book The SpyCatcher.

    [0] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Thing_(listening_device)

  • cess11 3 days ago ago

    She's really good. Here's an example of her covering a well known piece by Morricone:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajM4vYCZMZk

    From the headline I kind of expected it to be about some more contrived apparatus, something that was built ad hoc and is constantly close to self-disassembling from being used, like Wintergatan's Marble Machine:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvUU8joBb1Q

    • croisillon 3 days ago ago

      i didn't know the marble machine, thanks for the discovery!

    • asdefghyk 3 days ago ago

      265M views! - amazing

      • jacquesm 2 days ago ago

        Half of those are probably mine. She's absolutely amazing.

        • cess11 2 days ago ago

          Those are on the marble machine video, Eyck has a comparably puny 11 million. I think she deserves more, though.

          Theremin is something of a niche instrument however. Around the same time as the Morricone cover was released I also stumbled on this syrian rap song, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxah0kE4cwU, and over the months after it was released I was surprised at how fast it was getting views. Apparently it found a broader audience despite being kind of niche as well.

  • dewster 3 days ago ago

    The "digital one" Carolina refers to is my open source D-Lev design: https://d-lev.com/

    • dr_kiszonka 2 days ago ago

      Impressive!

      Do you know if there are any affordable "theremin" like MIDI control devices that enable free assignment of parameters to the antennas? For example, I could have both antennas control pitch, independently of each other, and amplitude would be set to a fixed value via a knob or on a device that the "theremin" sends its output to.

    • Blackthorn 2 days ago ago

      Any plan to sell kits or pieces again? The biggest barrier for me (dunno about others) is the faceplate/enclosure.

      • dewster 2 days ago ago

        There are 50 or so kits spread out all over the world, some in the hands of the world's best Thereminists, which has been quite gratifying. But the project has been in a bit of a hiatus while I do more R&D, and the current tariff situation isn't exactly filling me with enthusiasm. Enclosures and antennas have been a burden for some, a wine box build is probably your best bet. I don't mind supplying hand-wound coils and any guidance you may need. My contact info is on the support page.

    • dewster 2 days ago ago

      Here's Carolina playing the D-Lev: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vjJ2SG5cVA

      She's a super sweet person, and a consummate musician!

  • dtgriscom 2 days ago ago

    Watching one of her videos, you can see that her theremin has a pitch display, showing pitch on a hex grid of LEDs. It must make accurate pitch a lot easier (although in no way "easy").

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vjJ2SG5cVA

    • dewster 2 days ago ago

      AFAIK Carolina only uses the D-Lev pitch circle for coming in on pitch, not for active playing. That's pretty typical for players who have learned on an analog Theremin, where they have necessarily been guided only by fingering techniques and their ears. Many Thereminists plug a guitar tuner or similar into their Theremin for this, but those sorts of tuners are rather sluggish. When you have a highly responsive tuner, then playing turns into an almost "paint by numbers" experience, and you are much more aware of the key and other song structure.

  • pdpi 3 days ago ago

    Rob Scallon did a video with Carolina a few years ago, where they go into a bit of detail about how you play the thing and how it words. If you’re interested in the theremin, it’s a pretty good watch.

    https://youtu.be/LYSGTkNtazo?si=wuqxx0_ojI-vfbwa

  • perilunar 3 days ago ago

    The theremin is a fully electronic instrument that could sound like anything at all — so why does it sound so unpleasant?

    • afandian 3 days ago ago

      Originally because it produced sound by heterodyning two sine waves.

      Modern ones (the Moog ones I saw 20 years ago) have tunable waveforms but still hark back to that original sound.

      I like the sound. In the sonic tradition of the cello.

      https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XdFSU8sn3mo

    • ajb 3 days ago ago

      It was designed in 1920, before digital computers, and is made using a very small number of electronic components. So, they couldn't have made it sound like whatever they wanted, at the time.

    • Al-Khwarizmi 3 days ago ago

      Depends on which theremin, in which hands, with which effects, or lack thereof.

      Does this sound unpleasant to you? https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=62lT9XsZVio (maybe it's subjective, but it sounds very pleasant to me).

      • tpm 3 days ago ago

        To me it does sound unpleasant, like out of tune in a bad way (and I love untuned, atonal, experimental electronic music and use my own modular synth often, as a point of reference). Like the OP, I never understood the appeal of a theremin.

        • dieggsy 3 days ago ago

          I quite like the sound of a theremin played well, but that particular example sounds out of tune to me too.

          The comment in the other reply to the parent comment, as well as what I've heard of Carolina Eyck's playing, do sound pleasant to me though.

    • shagie 2 days ago ago

      The instrument and the performer.

      Katica Illény doing the Star Trek theme https://youtu.be/x0NVb25p1oU

    • Finnucane 3 days ago ago

      There's a mod you can get for a Moog Etherwave that extends the range and smooths out the tone. I had it added to mine and it was totally worth it.

  • meta-meta 2 days ago ago

    This is timely, I've been listening to Carolina Eyck a lot during the past few weeks! I've been building a virtual theremin for the Meta Quest, hoping to make this instrument more accessible and flexible by leveraging the powers of visual overlays and motion controllers. Here's a basic walkthrough: https://youtu.be/m8xFstjNxUo?si=ss2wSk1SIG90OWCM

    I've been stuck waiting for Meta to verify my identity. Shortly after that happens, it'll be available on the Quest store.

  • totikom 3 days ago ago

    Fun fact: there in was used in recording Teen Age Message to extraterrestrial civilizations: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teen_Age_Message

  • Projectiboga 2 days ago ago

    I think I saw her around 1999 or 2000 w an electronic group Arling & Cameron w a wind player. Lots of sound from a four piece. There is a different player on the album but they billed her as a world champion theremin player.

    The albums from that time were Arling & Cameron Music For Imaginary Films https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLP5E3f0kgIG2riT_HOfOYwoMr... Others were All In & Voulez Vous an EP.

  • pmags 3 days ago ago

    The synth company SOMA has an interesting new theremin-like synth called Flux, that uses magnetic "bows". See:

    https://somasynths.com/flux/

  • lars512 3 days ago ago

    And here I thought it would be the antagonistic undecagonstring...

    • lproven 2 days ago ago

      TRILLIAN:

      Zaphod! Please take your hand off me. And the other one. Thank you. And the other one.

      ZAPHOD:

      I grew that one specially for you Trillian, you know that. Took me six months but it was worth every minute.

  • calamity_elf 3 days ago ago

    I built a theremin in the early 80s for a school project. Had to get the local library to obtain books and other printed resources on it so I could make one. Sadly no pictures survive, and the device itself is long gone. Didn't think to document it at the time, beyond the hand in materials for the project. I was 14. I have wondered about getting a modern one though. They're so cool.

  • epizootics 3 days ago ago
  • davidw 2 days ago ago

    Angelo Moore from Fishbone uses one on occasion, but... IDK, not sure I love it compared with, say, his playing other instruments.

  • opminion 3 days ago ago

    I recently watched her live, introducing to the Theremin "for families", with a pianist. It was ok but too verbose and dumbed down (probably not by her, by her hosts). I'd try to attend her shows for grown ups instead, even with kids.

    This was a case where the novelty of the instrument stood in the way of the performance.

  • phren0logy 2 days ago ago

    If the idea of "spaghetti western theremin" strikes you as at all interesting, check out Via Mardot!

    https://youtu.be/jfpYluPyP3s?si=ohiXEkdEYoJkFht0

  • jansan 3 days ago ago

    Jack White uses a theremin in "Fear of the Dark", just so you know that it can be used in rock music, too.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3xPyPEOmmM

    • 867-5309 3 days ago ago

      Dawn, got excited for a Maiden cover there

      • jansan 3 days ago ago

        Thanks for the correction, Freud would have been be proud of me.

    • Supernaut 3 days ago ago

      Jimmy Page was using a Theremin in a rock context in 1969!

  • BrtByte 3 days ago ago

    What stood out to me most is how personal the instrument is. The idea that the theremin tunes to your body and environment - that you become part of the instrument - feels almost mystical

    • Al-Khwarizmi 3 days ago ago

      Indeed. The drawback is that it's kind of a solitary instrument. No one can move near you or they get you out of tune :)

  • dang 2 days ago ago

    Related. Others? I feel sure that there have been others...

    (It's hard to separate music Theremin from spy Theremin so I've just not tried)

    Show HN: iOS Theremin Simulator with Hand Tracking (Beta) - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42267668 - Nov 2024 (1 comment)

    What the hell is a luminiferous theremin? - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41204378 - Aug 2024 (54 comments)

    The Thing (Listening Device) - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40583607 - June 2024 (1 comment)

    YouTuber recreates Theremin's “Great Seal” spy bug [video] - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36092382 - May 2023 (2 comments)

    The Thing (Listening Device) - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31232681 - May 2022 (1 comment)

    The Thing (Listening Device) - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27676518 - June 2021 (3 comments)

    Russian Espionage and Electromagnetic Fields: The Story of the Theremin (2017) - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23304053 - May 2020 (24 comments)

    Theremin - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23029127 - April 2020 (1 comment)

    The Thing - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20157116 - June 2019 (104 comments)

    Peter Theremin’s haunting music, on his great-grandfather’s invention - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17955295 - Sept 2018 (1 comment)

    Theremin's Bug: How the Soviet Union Spied on the US Embassy for Seven Years - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15498685 - Oct 2017 (11 comments)

    Three Radio Theremin: Convert Old Radios into a Theremin - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11998382 - June 2016 (1 comment)

    Our Comrade the Electron - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10437775 - Oct 2015 (1 comment)

    Theremin - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10103717 - Aug 2015 (39 comments)

    Our Comrade the Electron - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7310045 - Feb 2014 (2 comments)

    The Great Seal Bug: How Theremin Eavesdropped On US Ambassador - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4191036 - July 2012 (1 comment)

    Leon Theremin: The man and the music machine - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3696549 - March 2012 (1 comment)

  • asdefghyk 5 days ago ago

    From the articale ....With its sci-fi antennae bristling left and right, Russian physicist Leon Theremin’s novel invention of 1919 remains the only musical instrument you play without touching anything. “Aerial fingering” was the technique devised by the inventor’s original Lithuanian prodigy, Clara Rockmore, in the 1930s.

    ......

    • ChrisMarshallNY 3 days ago ago

      Jarre plays a laser harp: https://youtu.be/nuM2Jw78u8Y

      • zimpenfish 3 days ago ago

        You could make the case that he has to "touch" (there's a physical interaction where his hand/glove blocks the light) the laser to trigger the note. I'm not even sure it would be that pedantic - there's a definite physicality to it that the theremin doesn't have.

        • ChrisMarshallNY 3 days ago ago

          Good point.

          Many stringed instruments, the actual sound is made by whatever the strings are attached to, so there's a similar distance between touch and sound.

          With percussion, it's quite direct, as with many wind instruments.

    • brudgers 4 days ago ago

      A 00's Roland with a D-Beam (or Two!) can be played without touching.

  • mitchbob 4 days ago ago
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  • crawsome 3 days ago ago

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    • crawsome 2 days ago ago

      Sucks I got flagged, but I'm happy someone changed the title away from the clickbait!