Large ancient Hawaiian petroglyphs uncovered by waves on Oahu

(sfgate.com)

83 points | by c420 4 days ago ago

23 comments

  • Oarch 14 hours ago ago

    Warning for others, this website opened a new tab, forwarded to Booking.com and hijacked my back button.

    • caesil 14 hours ago ago
    • Larrikin 7 hours ago ago

      Are you using anything to help prevent this kind of abuse like using Firefox, AdNauseum, or AdGuard? I wasn't able to reproduce this

    • antonvs 14 hours ago ago

      That's wild. I vaguely thought sfgate was a reasonably reputable site.

      • lurk2 13 hours ago ago

        A ton of news websites do this now, navigating to a “Before you go…” page when you hit the back button. I’ve always suspected this kind of behavior has a lot to do with why people don’t read articles anymore. You know what you’re getting when you open a comment section on Reddit, Hacker News, or Twitter. The majority of other websites are going to be borderline impossible to view on mobile.

        • rudasn 12 hours ago ago

          Chrome with JS disabled works good enough for me on mobile. It's also easy to whitelist specific sites. But mostly, if I get a blank page I just go back.

          • lysace 11 hours ago ago

            I just use Brave and its builtin ad blocking on iOS. This is the killer app of these days.

            Very few sites really work with js disabled.

    • aspenmayer 13 hours ago ago

      That is extremely interesting. Booking.com is driving a lot of traffic, as I have outlined previously on HN:

      https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44481590

  • mallomarmeasle 13 hours ago ago

    Trying to wrap my head around the term "cultural practitioner", even after looking it up. Don't we all transmit our culture?

  • BSOhealth 8 hours ago ago

    What a terrible website

  • onecommentman 7 hours ago ago

    “Hawaiian petroglyphs dating back at least a half-millennium”

    Which means 500 years ago. You can buy entire books published that long ago, if you have a spare thousand or two USD. Pushing the antiquity of the finding by referring to “millennium” seems very American.

  • michaelsbradley 10 hours ago ago

    Depending on the age of the petroglyphs, would be directly or indirectly related to:

    Characteristics for the Occurrence of a High-Current, Z-Pinch Aurora as Recorded in Antiquity (2003)

    https://archive.org/details/anthony-peratt-characteristics-f...

    Characteristics For The Occurrence Of A High Current Z Pinch Aurora As Recorded In Antiquity Part II: Directionality And Source (2007)

    https://archive.org/details/characteristics-for-the-occurren...

  • sema4hacker 13 hours ago ago

    "Uncovered" should be "once again uncovered".

  • akshay_trikha 13 hours ago ago

    > The shoreline is publicly accessible, but parking at the Army’s recreation center requires military ID.

    There's something poetically sad about this.

    • wildzzz 12 hours ago ago

      It's basically a small Army base adjacent to most of the beach so that's why you can't park there. There's some public parking at the public access area at the south end. If you owned a house that was up against a private beach, I doubt you'd let people park in your driveway or cut through your yard to access it.

      • heavyset_go 11 hours ago ago

        > If you owned a house that was up against a private beach, I doubt you'd let people park in your driveway or cut through your yard to access it.

        There's a concept in common law called the public trust doctrine[1] that we inherited from our British legal lineage that many states incorporate into their handling of beaches.

        For example, some states hold all beaches in public trusts, and everyone has the right to use them. There being no such thing as "private beaches", although riparian rights can be rented, also means that the public has a right to access those beaches even if private property blocks access.

        In those cases, the public has both perpendicular and lateral beach access rights, the former meaning you can legally cut across private property to access beaches, the latter meaning that you can walk up and down beaches to access other beaches.

        That's to say your feelings about people crossing private property don't really matter when it comes legal beach access, Hawaii holds all waters and beaches in public trusts via public trust doctrine that courts have held up for literally centuries.

        [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_trust_doctrine

    • Telemakhos 13 hours ago ago

      I've have never before heard a parking situation described in poetic terms. I might go take a long walk on a beach to ponder that.

      • adastra22 13 hours ago ago

        "They paved paradise and put up a parking lot."

    • labster 13 hours ago ago

      Were used to it in Malibu. The publicly owned shoreline can be reached through the legally mandated passageways, if you can make it through the locked gates and avoid being seen by security.

      • natebc 12 hours ago ago

        It's the same in ... well at least some of the continental states. Georgia for sure has mandated public access (mostly) and the beaches cannot be privately owned, specifically up to the high watermark. We used to use this to swim over and surf on Sea Island ... much to the chagrin of their rent-a-cops!

      • lostlogin 12 hours ago ago

        We have a variation on this in New Zealand. Below the high tide line is public land. Good luck getting there.