When Bill Gates Yelled at Me About Climate Change

(theframelab.org)

9 points | by doener 6 hours ago ago

11 comments

  • melling 5 hours ago ago

    ““The Weather Channel! You get your information from the Weather Channel!” Now Gates was beet red, mocking and gesticulating even more. Heads were turning as people watched this spectacle in the hallway. “You should meet a real climate scientist,” he said while pointing to physicist David Keith, then with the University of Calgary, later with Harvard and the University of Chicago.”

    Gates was right.

    Anyway, we need to start being more specific about what climate changes are happening and when.

    Net Zero was scheduled for 2050. Always seemed unlikely.

    Yet the far right screams alarmists every time a wind turbine goes up.

    The far left screams we’ll all be dead if we don’t react by 2030.

    All the news headlines have politically polarized solving the problem.

    • Tarsul 20 minutes ago ago

      But the crazy part is that on a spectrum from far left to far right, the far left was never more correct than on climate change. By which I mean it truly is catastrophic/worldchanging or in a little more words: the worst legacy a generation ever left behind for future generations. And why? Because we are addicted to fossil fuels. Climate change happens more because of wants [of the rich world] than because of needs [of everyone]. We burn our future for our current desires.

    • doener 5 hours ago ago

      You left out the most important part:

      “Yes, we’ve been trying to help Bill understand this isn’t just about the tropics,” Keith explained.

  • DrierCycle 4 hours ago ago

    Mammals will have an extremely difficult time surviving another Eocene.

    https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-025-64241-0

  • techblueberry 6 hours ago ago

    Is this just all going to turn on a dime again in a Democrat administration, because that will be weird.

    • toomuchtodo 6 hours ago ago

      Yes, and by then, China’s export engine for cleantech will be at full speed. This is an annoying pause.

      https://ember-energy.org/data/china-cleantech-exports-data-e...

      • techblueberry 6 hours ago ago

        One of the weirdest things is to see very serious growth-oriented capitalists in the US argue about the “solution to our economic problems”. Re: coal vs gas vs fossil fuels vs clean energy, and China just fucking full steam ahead on all the things.

        • toomuchtodo 5 hours ago ago

          What does that tell you about their motivations and incentives? Observe what someone does, not what they say.

  • jaggs 5 hours ago ago

    It's not even the drowning. It's the harvests.

  • Zeetah 5 hours ago ago

    Dunning-Kruger effect?

  • onetokeoverthe 5 hours ago ago

    [dead]