Show HN: Safe-now.live – Ultra-light emergency info site (<10KB)

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114 points | by tinuviel 7 hours ago ago

36 comments

  • randomtoast 2 hours ago ago

    The font size is too small for emergencies on mobile devices. You need to consider that users might be in a panic, may not have both hands free to zoom in, and their vision could be impaired by smoke or other factors.

    • ericbarrett an hour ago ago

      It is astonishing how one's motor skills degrade when the adrenaline is flowing. I once tried to dial 911 on an iPhone in such circumstances. My hands were shaking so badly I kept dialing 922, 811, 914, and so on. Terrible in the moment but a very good lesson for preparedness. I really appreciate the "dial Emergency" methods on modern phone software that just need a button held down.

      • 8cvor6j844qw_d6 27 minutes ago ago

        My only complaint with hold-to-dial emergency dialing is phones with damaged or glitchy buttons (ghost presses) that trigger it accidentally. There's probably a setting to disable it, though I think its manufacturer-dependent.

      • drob518 21 minutes ago ago

        Imagine trying to navigate Hacker News in an emergency. LOL!

  • _fat_santa an hour ago ago

    Others have mentioned this but looks like fires from close to ~20 years ago are still showing up as "active emergencies"[0]. Shows the Nash Ranch fire as an active emergency but it was declared in 2008.

    [0]: https://safe-now.live/c/us/co/colorado-springs/

    • DeathArrow 37 minutes ago ago

      AI didn't know we are not interested in 20 year old fires.

  • goda90 5 minutes ago ago

    It would be good for the specific state/province/city pages to include the same info from the ancestor pages so you only have to link to and load one page for your area.

  • davedx 8 minutes ago ago

    The UK emergency phone number is 999, not 112.

    Ugh. Don't make a website like this without verifying the information is correct please!

  • 1970-01-01 an hour ago ago

    I'm seeing fires from 1999.

    https://safe-now.live/c/us/al/

    • cush an hour ago ago

      Well technically the agent did “build a website of the latest emergencies in every county”… it just so happens Alabama rarely has forest fires.

      • groby_b 31 minutes ago ago

        Yeah, it goes back to 2021 for California for a list of 15 fires or so - and we have 120 current ones, so probably not a good explanation.

  • doodad3 3 hours ago ago

    The about page [0] links to a github repository [1], but it seems to not be uploaded or hidden.

    [0]: https://safe-now.live/about

    [1]: https://github.com/venkatag/SafeNow

  • doterobcn 6 hours ago ago

    I would suggest increasing font-size, looks too small

    • torgoguys 3 hours ago ago

      I disagree. When I saw the page, I thought, "Finally an information dense page again! It's been so long since they've been common and I miss them."

      • KronisLV 2 hours ago ago

        I disagree with your disagreement, for example HN is readable but the linked site feels too small for my eyes on a 21.5" 1080p monitor. It also doesn't respect browser preferences, unless you enforce a minimum font size (which can break display elements on other sites):

          font-family: Calibri, Candara, Segoe UI, Optima, Arial, sans-serif;
          font-size: 13px;
        
        If the dev wanted a similar effect by default but be more accommodating, they could do:

          font-family: Calibri, Candara, Segoe UI, Optima, Arial, sans-serif;
          font-size: 0.8125rem;
        
        There's no reason why you couldn't have smaller font while still respecting browser scaling. However, they might also want to just leave it at 1 rem and let the folks that prefer higher information density to customize their own browser settings, since those are what most well developed sites should respect and it might be more accessible by default on most devices (for my eyes, at the very least).

        As for targeting specific screen sizes for non-standard font scaling, media queries also would help!

        In regards to missing information dense pages, try changing your browser font settings, it might actually be quite pleasant for you to see many sites respecting that preference!

      • duskdozer 2 hours ago ago

        I agree that too many sites now will narrow the text area and pad too much. The issue here is a fixed pixel size that will look quite different depending on the specific monitor setup you have.

        And honestly if this type of thing bothers you as much as it does me, unfortunately it means adding a bunch of stylus sheets everywhere...

    • Brajeshwar 6 hours ago ago

      I think the default target is expecting a smaller screen mobile device, hence the 13px default. This is a good idea, and any other screen sizes that see smaller text can still zoom in using default browser behaviors.

    • duskdozer 6 hours ago ago

      Agree, even just converting to use em instead of px is more usable on differing screen size/dpi

    • austinjp 5 hours ago ago

      Yup. Even on mobile the text is too small for me. In particular, the line-height could be larger so links can be tapped more easily.

      Nice though, I like it.

  • nicoburns an hour ago ago

    Normally I would say this doesn't matter much, but I wonder if a shorter domain name (or just one without a dash in it) might be in order here. I don't think I would want to be typing or remebering "safe-now.live" in an emergency

  • cush an hour ago ago

    I think people would be more interested in the heavy emergencies, not just the ultra light ones

  • rumatoest 4 hours ago ago

    It must be able to cache it's all content in browser.

    I guess to do it it properly you need to make it PWA.

    • Croak 2 hours ago ago

      You can also just use proper HTTP cache headers. ETag and a very long Expires header.

  • whynotmaybe 2 hours ago ago

    Nice touch to have it bilingual in Canada.

    Maybe add Spanish?

  • yearolinuxdsktp an hour ago ago

    Local news needs timestamps… I see stale last-week weather news. Had to click and see date from last week in the article.

  • moralestapia an hour ago ago

    >Flood: Higher ground - Turn around, don't drown

    It's hard to take a 14 year old serious ...

    • drob518 16 minutes ago ago

      In Texas we lose people every year because they think they can make it across what looks like a small, shallow creek and are swept away by water that is really much deeper. You might think, “Well, those are stupid Texans,” but we even have EMS personnel die that way. A couple years ago we lost a deputy sheriff who was patrolling and trying to monitor water levels. Her car got swept away and then pinned downstream and she drowned. “Turn around, don’t drown,” is a mantra here.

  • idiotsecant 3 hours ago ago

    When you drill down to active emergencies for a local area there's a ton of stuff there but it's all old. Why display it if the purpose of the site is current emergency info?

    • Computer0 3 hours ago ago

      Are there any fema declared disasters you believe are omitted?

      • zamadatix 2 hours ago ago

        I think they are referring to the occurrence rate of false positives, not that of false negatives. E.g. the page for California lists back through to the Bond Fire, which was contained in 2020. The problem may stem from that the FEMA page lists the incident as a single day https://www.fema.gov/disaster/5385 so this tool doesn't set and end date like it would for https://www.fema.gov/disaster/5382

        A similar kind of noise note could probably be made of the "Recent Earthquakes" section. E.g. if you select Indianapolis, IN it includes all the way down to a M2.6 which occurred in NW Tennessee 30 days ago.

  • lencastre 4 hours ago ago

    great stuff!!

    wish there was sth lk this this side of the pond

  • freak42 2 hours ago ago

    ... for North America.

    • HelloUsername 2 hours ago ago

      > for North America

      Correct? Straight from the text: "a text-first emergency info site for USA and Canada"

  • jonathanstrange 7 hours ago ago

    Looks nice & useful. However, I'd make two versions: The one you have, and additionally a version with Javascript that is a Progressive Web App (PWA). I'm pretty sure some AI could convert the normal page into a PWA for you.

    The PWA has the advantage that it will also load when the internet is down and there is no need to save the page manually.

    • yearolinuxdsktp an hour ago ago

      How can it load when the internet is down?!? Doesn’t the PWA source have to be fetched? And if it’s cached, then so can be the static resources.

      • jonathanstrange an hour ago ago

        The complete web page and all resources are saved locally by the service worker. "Clear site data"/clear cookies will delete it. However, clearing the normal browser cache won't. It's overall a little more persistent than the cache for static resources. However, it needs to be installed as an app to really work offline without initial loading. Chrome will prompt you for that on Android, Linux, and Windows. Safari can also do that but makes you jump through hoops.