6 comments

  • ryukoposting 20 hours ago ago

    I watched a recording of the hearing. It sounds a lot like the Amazon Fresh thing, at a glance, but it's not.

    Amazon admitted that they had a bunch of people in India looking at the camera feeds and validating orders post-facto. The media took this as "the Indian workers are processing your Amazon Fresh purchase, not the computers" which is disingenuous at best. And yeah, it sounds like Waymos usually, nearly always are fully autonomous.

    The huge, gargantuan, enormous difference is that, in Waymo's case, the overseas folks are taking control of a fucking car. That's not post-facto like the Amazon thing. And, more importantly, the ramifications of even the tiniest mistake are massive by comparison.

    Indian Amazon guy screws up? Shoot, I paid for two heads of lettuce when I only got one. Filipino Waymo guy screws up? Car accident.

    By the way: Imagine driving a real, actual car with trans-oceanic ping.

    • ddol 13 hours ago ago

      The remote assistance (fleet response) team cannot directly control the car:

      > The Waymo Driver evaluates the input from fleet response and independently remains in control of driving.

      https://waymo.com/blog/2024/05/fleet-response

    • verdverm 19 hours ago ago

      > taking control of a fucking car

      they aren't though, they are clicking waypoints on a map

  • almosthere 20 hours ago ago

    So,... isn't it illegal to do that. If someone in the Philippines does not have a CA/AZ/Whatever driver's license - then Waymo is breaking the law. It's probably worse than that.

    It also proves that Waymo's capabilities are overstated. I keep getting pushback when I complain about specific situations in this forum about how Waymo thinks about complex situations - and this entire time, it may have been humans navigating them.

    • tredre3 20 hours ago ago

      Foreigners can drive in California without a California license. But it's important to note that in this situation they're not driving at all (the latency would make that unfeasible). They're there to disambiguate complicated situations and point the car in the right direction.

      Try to not let clickbait headlines shape your view of a situation.

    • estimator7292 12 hours ago ago

      No. In general if you hold a valid license from your officially recognized locality, you can drive in the US.

      Did you think we just don't allow foreigners to drive ever?