13 comments

  • tekacs 2 hours ago ago

    This article is pretty frustrating to read because it conflates many different kinds of so-called AI.

    The AI plan involving LLMs and generative AI is conflated with a bunch of medical devices that are using stuff that has absolutely nothing to do with the new AI wave.

  • m-hodges 4 hours ago ago

    Wake up babe, new Therac-25 just dropped.

    • Kiboneu 3 hours ago ago

      It’s funny because the Therac-25 failures led the FDA to care about software defects. Before the Therac-25 incidents, software was considered a black box component.

      History rhymes doesn’t it?

      • AndrewKemendo 3 hours ago ago

        It’s almost as if we’re an entirely reactive species that can’t think ahead forward on solving problems that aren’t as a result of some massive tragic event

        So I wonder then *curiously* what kind of massive tragic event we’re going to have to have before everybody wakes up and realizes superhuman artificial intelligence is something they need to pay attention to politically

        • m-hodges 3 hours ago ago

          I think you’re describing reactive not reactionary.

          • AndrewKemendo an hour ago ago

            Agreed, corrected

          • catigula an hour ago ago

            I'm not totally convinced of this.

            https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/reactionary

            >relating to, marked by, or favoring reaction

            It doesn't denote primarily political usage, although that is my interpretation. Here are a few given examples:

            > The Clippers so far have been reactionary in the playoffs. — Los Angeles Times, 13 June 2021

            > The demise of the style was spurred by a reactionary resurgence of Classicism. — Regina Cole, Forbes, 1 Jan. 2023

            > However, the signing had been in the works for weeks and was not a reactionary move in the wake of Sjöberg’s injury. — Daniel Boniface, The Denver Post, 14 Mar. 2017

            >But in most people, facial bloating and undereye puffiness are usually just reactionary. — Georgia Casey, Allure, 6 Feb. 2026

    • blibble 39 minutes ago ago

      for a computer science degree in the UK to be accredited, the chartered institute mandated an ethics course

      therac-25 was in there

      and now everyone's shoving as much generative excrement as possibly into everything as quickly as possible

      • redwall_hp 26 minutes ago ago

        I'm increasingly convinced of the need for professional licensing for software engineering. You get a degree, and sit through that ethics course, and take an exam to get a license, or you don't get to practice. Do unethical things, enjoy major liability.

        Software engineers can do just as much damage as civil engineers, automotive engineers, doctors, lawyers, etc...but the industry overall has a disgustingly casual attitude.

        • blibble 12 minutes ago ago

          I think software engineers in the right place can actually do far more damage than most doctors and lawyers

          the scale is simply humongous

          just look at what facebook has done to our democracies

  • pixl97 31 minutes ago ago

    Yea, so what is the base rate of botched surgeries?

    So if the base rate is 1 out of 100 botched, and with whatever this AI stuff they are using is 3 out of 100, eh, that doesn't look good.

    But if base rate is 1 out of 100 botched and 1 out of 100 with AI is botched this is a tempest in a teapot just trying to use AI outrage to get you mad without thinking.

  • igleria 3 hours ago ago

    oof, I expected the article to NOT be about a medical operating room.

  • novemp 2 hours ago ago

    No, really? I am SHOCKED.