Jony Ive Designed Ferrari Luce EV Interior

(topgear.com)

57 points | by elxr 20 hours ago ago

104 comments

  • Traster 18 hours ago ago

    I clearly don't understand Design. My expectation is that an amazing prolific designer would deliver different designs in different contexts. At Apple maybe it's this minimalist industrial design. But what I'm seeing here - and forgive me if I'm just an idiot about design, is exactly what you'd get it you asked ChatGPT "Ferrari but Johnny Ive apple design interior".

    It's all the same design language and materials you'd seen on Apple product. It's almost like someone went "let's make the infotainment a giant Apple watch".

    I would expect you call up a good designer and they design something special that works in the language of your product, something uniquely new, but also uniquely Ferrari. But what seems to be happening here is if you phone up Johnny Ive you'll get a slapdash re-run of 2010s iPhone design.

    • signatoremo 10 hours ago ago

      Compare the iconic Testarossa [0] with the latest F80 [1], do you see anything common that screams “Ferrari design language”? I don’t. If anything, Luce looks more like a modern take of the classic Ferrari model.

      You criticized it despite not knowing how the exterior looks like, or what Ferrari’s requirements are, e.g “fresh take in the new era”, “distinct look for EV”, “avoid upsetting existing buyers who want to protect their car’s value”, “attract younger affluent buyers who grew up with Apple products”, and so on.

      Another thing to consider, this will be a SUV for the mainstream, not the enthusiasts, although it still requires preorder and long waiting time.

      Design is very subjective. I personally don’t love this. I like Land Rovers’s much more. Still the criticism here reads a lot like “Jony Ive is no longer cool, so anything he touches sucks”.

      [0] - https://f1rstmotors.com/blogs/the-ferrari-testarossa-the-cla...

      [1] - https://www.caranddriver.com/photos/g65351444/2026-ferrari-f...

    • lcrisci 17 hours ago ago

      You have eloquently described my first impression upon looking at the pictures. It feels way too Apple-y or should we say Jony Ive-y. Perhaps a design’s style is truly unique to an artist, much like painters who inevitably develop recognisable styles, and therefore we should not be surprised by this outcome. For me, it dilutes the Ferrari's historical and unique Italian design.

    • piva00 17 hours ago ago

      I don't think you are not understanding design, big-name designers do have a design language but in this case it just feels like Ive re-applied whatever his design language for Apple in the early 2000s into a Ferrari car.

      Very little care on aligning the design to the brand design, except for the seat and a few selector switches (which somehow Ferrari seems to have accepted? Strange from such a picky client), no care about keeping refined design elements like stalks for the turn signals and wipers and instead applying this buttons-everywhere-for-every-function approach that is considered a regression in EVs input design.

      The screens are just different shapes of iPhones/iPads instead of something uniquely Ferrari-Ive, feels like a Ferrari-Apple car collab.

      Really don't understand it, Dieter Rams did a lot with the same design language because he worked for Braun for a long ass time, Ive is completely untethered from Apple so re-applying the same design language he created for the brand unto another brand is just unimaginative.

    • anonym00se1 12 hours ago ago

      This is Jony Ive taking his design aesthetic (minimalism, primary shapes, metal&glass) and applying it to the interior of a car vs. Jony Ive designing an interior of a Ferrari that looks like a Ferrari.

      • ottah 10 hours ago ago

        Or lack of design aesthetic. It has no opinions except for safe ones.

    • pibaker 9 hours ago ago

      This design does not feel apple to me at all. Most noticeably, the central console has physical switches all over, something neither apple nor carmakers are keen of in recent years. I would also expect an apple product to have a fully digital dashboard, but it looks like everything is old school analog display on that Ferrari, even the clock.

      I wonder how many people could have actually known that this is designed by Jonny Ive if they haven't been told before.

    • cr125rider 17 hours ago ago

      This looks exactly like “we had the one trick pony, Jony, design an iPad car interface”

      • herbturbo 17 hours ago ago

        Unsolving the problem of human vehicle interaction.

  • jermaustin1 19 hours ago ago

    I can't tell if it is just me, but a digital analogue clock is weird. I'm all for analogue time keeping with hands circling a face, but when it is put on a flat screen, it feels cheap.

    There aren't enough buttons, there is too much to read, and all of this while I'm driving.

    I remember my friends dad had a Corvette or something in the mid-late 90s, and it had this red projected HUD on the windshield. All of your information was right at eye level, and you never had to look away from the road to see your RPM or speed, and probably more, but that was 30ish years ago, and I barely remember yesterday.

    • bronco21016 19 hours ago ago

      GM has kept the HUD thing going for a few decades now. They offer it on a good number of vehicles in their GMC lineup. I have it on my vehicle now and it's absolutely amazing. I find I rarely look inside the vehicle at the 14" infotainment screen. It shows speed, cruise control status and alerts, navigation, and a popup of song title if I manually change songs with the steering controls. I find I'm lost and heavily distracted when I get in my wife's vehicle without a HUD.

      Also, my vehicle is a truck, one of the last places where manufacturers still let you have buttons and knobs to control climate.

      • Hamuko 16 hours ago ago

        I have a HUD in my BMW and it's utterly useless unless it's night time since it doesn't work with polarized sunglasses.

        • Podrod 14 hours ago ago

          Have you tried taking off your sunglasses?

          • reverius42 10 hours ago ago

            Sunglasses help you when you are driving and it's sunny out.

            Has the manufacturer considered designing and testing for that use case?

    • jonasdegendt 19 hours ago ago

      The watch face can change, repurposing the hands for a stopwatch and compass mode.

      See the multigraph section: https://www.ferrari.com/en-EN/auto/ferrari-luce

    • TYPE_FASTER 16 hours ago ago

      Our Mazda came with a HUD. It works well. Pretty great to have info like speed limit, next nav instruction, BLIS info right in your line of sight without being intrusive IMO.

    • jollyllama 18 hours ago ago

      The whole thing kind of looks cheap tbh.

    • davedx 19 hours ago ago

      > There aren't enough buttons, there is too much to read, and all of this while I'm driving.

      The speedo and rev counter are exactly where they should be. What else do you need to read while driving?

      What buttons are you missing?

      • prmoustache 19 hours ago ago

        Who needs a rev counter on an EV?

    • drcongo 16 hours ago ago

      America loves an analogue clock in a car.

    • 6stringmerc 18 hours ago ago

      Everything about this design has a dichotomous personality. The smoothness of the materials and rounded edges can’t make up for the disparate and forced combobulation to get…this…

  • duxup 19 hours ago ago

    I feel like nobody has figured out yet how these screens and components in a modern car should fit together that don't look like little iPhones and iPads just mounted in a car.

    There are some nice buttons here, and individual components (as photographed) look good on their own.

    BUT altogether it still seems like disparate components who share design language, just slapped into a vehicle.

    • soared 19 hours ago ago

      Agreed. This projects looks like they couldn’t find a meaningful way to innovate and had to reach for impact-less uniqueness - physical clock on a digital screen, Oled gauges for no reason.

    • recursivedoubts 19 hours ago ago

      screens are for output, buttons (and toggles, knobs & sliders, they all have their strenghts) are for input. Voice is also good for input but should never be the only (or primary) way of interacting with important functionality.

      automakers are slowly figuring this out but, unfortunately, the move to electric may retard this realization because "high-tech"

      • piva00 18 hours ago ago

        Voice is only good for languages which have broad support, and for native or almost-native sounding speakers. Anyone with an accent or speaking a language with broken support due to few speakers or just models not heavily trained on hates voice commands.

        I don't have a heavy accent but as a non-native speaker still do have an accent in English, and I hate the failure modes of voice commands when it misinterprets something since it is much harder to correct. I actively avoid voice commands just due to this 1-5% of failures that are extremely annoying.

  • pcurve 19 hours ago ago

    I welcome to physical buttons. But multiple rectilineal shapes dominate without harmony. Almost feels like a semi truck interior.

    • detourdog 19 hours ago ago

      British sports cars in the sixties for safety reasons had to remove toggle switches. The problem was that during crashes people were losing eyes or suffering puncture wounds. This was the story handed down to me by my uncle.

      This is second hand account but here are my uncle's credentials...

      https://mossmotoring.com/manhattan-mechanic/

      • CamperBob2 11 hours ago ago

        No shortage of toggle switches in 1970s Ferraris, I can say that much.

        • detourdog 10 hours ago ago

          I think the toggle switch ban can be lumped in with the bumper requirement on imports. Maybe with the rubber bumpers on MG’s. I think these imports requirements started in the 70’s.

    • wlesieutre 18 hours ago ago

      If those corner radiuses got any bigger they'd turn into circles

      • jerlam 15 hours ago ago

        There's a Mini Cooper with a circular touch screen:

        https://www.carmagazine.co.uk/car-news/tech/mini-circular-in...

        It looks terrible especially running Carplay (which is designed for rectangular screens).

        • pcurve 14 hours ago ago

          I can forgive the circle screen in a Mini Cooper just because it's a heritage thing. What I don't like is, not having physical controls for heated seats, temperature controls, and heated steering wheels. Mini made all those touch screen, which don't work nice with gloves.

          • threetonesun 13 hours ago ago

            Well, it was a heritage thing. The original remakes with the center speedo and plenty of physical buttons were fun. The digital circle thing is an abomination.

          • wlesieutre 13 hours ago ago

            I always wonder if the people designing these things have ever lived in a cold climate. They know about cold in the abstract because they put heated seats in, but have they ever woken up in the morning and gone outside to commute to work in a car that's been sitting at -20 degrees overnight. Interfaces that don't work with gloves or mittens on are the worst.

            Which is to say, do they know that touch interfaces are bad and do it anyway because it saves money? Or do they go through life thinking they're actually making a usable product?

            • pcurve 11 hours ago ago

              "Which is to say, do they know that touch interfaces are bad and do it anyway because it saves money? Or do they go through life thinking they're actually making a usable product?"

              It's likely the former. Industrial designers are trained on ergonomics so they know the benefits of physical switches.

              However, at least in the case of BMW / Mini, they're forced use touchscreens by their management primarily because:

              1. Not only it saves money

              2. It also enables subscription models for certain features like heated seats and steering wheel. No heated seats? Just remove the UI buttons.

              Unless consumers push back (like VW customers did), they will continue to cut costs.

            • reverius42 10 hours ago ago

              EVs heat up the interior before you get in (very effectively, since they are usually a heat pump for interior heating/cooling and also for battery temp management). Generally you tap a button in an app on your phone about 10 minutes prior, and by the time you get in the car it's nice and toasty. If you keep your car plugged in at home it doesn't even use any battery to do this. Heated seats is just a luxury feature, not a necessity.

              • wlesieutre 6 hours ago ago

                When I was street parking in New England winters I was not exactly an EV target customer. I'm sure that's very nice if you have a driveway and home charging though.

                Absolutely heated seats are a luxury feature. That doesn't change the fact that if put heated seats in a car and then have touchscreen only controls, you have created a stupid product that's made to be comfortable in cold temperatures but not usable in cold temperatures.

                Of course they should be making cars usable in cold temperatures whether or not it has cold weather luxury features, but the addition on heated seats in a car that you can't operate with gloves on just highlights the stupidity of the screen interfaces.

                The manufacturer is considering "what would be nice for a car in cold temperatures" and then skipping over "it would be nice if you could turn the heat or defogger on."

        • zemvpferreira 13 hours ago ago

          I would have literally bought a mini if not for the daft screen and lack of button. Bought a Smart Fortwo instead, happy camper with all my tactile interfaces.

    • LightBug1 19 hours ago ago

      Yes, similar response. I like all of the individual elements, but they don't work together visually.

    • trgn 19 hours ago ago

      yeah, or cop car, stuff with bolted on displays

  • Brajeshwar 20 hours ago ago

    I see lots of physical buttons in the pictures. I believe that is good and the way forward.

    • DrScientist 19 hours ago ago

      I have an relatively old car that was made before the fad for touch screens, I am desperately hoping real tactile controls come back into fashion before I have to buy my next car.

      Then I would have managed to avoid the touch screen stupidity entirely.

  • cmckn 18 hours ago ago

    Needing to “dock” the key in the center console to start the car is clunky. We’ve had the proximity key thing figured out for like 15 years. It also seems impossible to have the car key on a ring with anything else?

    • trpv 18 hours ago ago

      It’s not bad UX, it’s part of the experience of driving the car. Something that a Ferrari buyer probably cares more about than a Tesla buyer. I personally miss the physical keys on older cars that you had to insert and turn to start the car because you’re directly controlling the starter/engine. It feels like you’re driving a car and not using an appliance. There are people who prefer manual transmissions for similar reasons.

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      • Hamuko 16 hours ago ago

        My current car has keyless entry and start, and I don't really miss having to insert the key and turn the ignition. And I especially don't miss those ignition switches that were mounted on the side of the steering wheel where it was impossible to see the keyhole. At least the start button on my dash is in an easily visible spot.

    • butlike 18 hours ago ago

      It's more secure

  • jonasdegendt 19 hours ago ago

    There's a more in-depth page on the Ferrari website:

    https://www.ferrari.com/en-EN/auto/ferrari-luce

  • sph 2 hours ago ago

    Link only shows a Tesla Cybertruck with Police markings?

    No mention or picture of any Ferrari or Jony Ive.

  • bgnn 13 hours ago ago

    This is just so sad. One would have hoped Ferrari aa a car brand care about their design language enough to not look like any other car in 2026. That iPad in the middle looks just a bit more refined than the middle console tablet glued to a Dacia Sandero.

    Why do they go for OLED fake analog gauges? You don't need to switch between a million different faces for gauges. A Ferrari is supposed to be about the driving experience, not the gimmicks.

  • csjr 10 hours ago ago

    The wheel looks good, remind me of a F1 one! Loved the dials on it! It's proper cockpit, gave me launch control vibes. The integration between physical and digital looks smooth.

    The paddle shifts got me intrigued, how it's working under the hood?

  • tummler 20 hours ago ago

    It looks nice but nothing groundbreaking. If you hadn’t told me Jony Ive did it, I wouldn’t have ever known or thought it was unique.

    • Tade0 19 hours ago ago

      I was genuinely expecting neon colours, gradients and whatnot.

  • jemmyw 14 hours ago ago

    > What you’re looking at here is arguably the most consequential car interior, well, ever

    It looks like the interior of many cars now except for having stick like manual toggles like a retro control panel. It's not consequential at all, unless they mean "following as a result of".

  • elxr 20 hours ago ago

    While I don't think the center console is very ferrari-like, and kind of looks more like a piece of consumer electronics to me, I quite the gauges.

    Using round oleds with inset bezels and physical needles to emulate a traditional 90s (and earlier) gauge cluster is an interesting idea. Honestly refreshing in a sea of sameness in the car industry today.

  • germinalphrase 19 hours ago ago

    While I quite like the choices around physical vs digital controls, this aesthetic feels refined to the most unexciting degree: objectively good, but locked in the past. In fairness, automotive interiors (especially EVs) seem to be having a bit of an identity crisis across the board.

  • herbturbo 17 hours ago ago

    Looks like a sim racers rig or something Logitech designed. This bland tech aesthetic and cost cutting mindset has already ruined Porsche and I guess now it’s Ferrari’s turn.

  • recursivedoubts 19 hours ago ago

    glad to see some physical buttons, but there aren't nearly enough of them and they aren't differentiated enough

    the emergency lights button should be colored red and elevated because it needs to be interacted with in high-stress situations

    temperature should be set with a slider rather than a toggle switch because then a given temperature selection becomes spatially consistent and selecting max-hot or max-cold is instant and obvious

    and so on

    all in all better than expected and shows that we are moving past the "everything is an ipad" phase of civilizational development

    • nubg 19 hours ago ago

      Agreed. I wonder why they didnt immediately think of that (slider for temperature etc).

      Is it our hubris as armchair UI designers that we miss obvious problems? Is it internal politics? Is it bureaucracy? Is it hardware difficulties?

      • recursivedoubts 19 hours ago ago

        i think physical sliders are aesthetically fairly ugly (although two vertical sliders on either side of the control cluster could look good)

        they also make it difficult to support an "auto" function, because they would need to move automatically to maintain a consistent user experience

        sliders aren't used very often in cars now so it is probably harder to find well made components for them

        etc

        hopefully as the automakers move back to physical inputs they bring back these sorts of controls

        • korhojoa 13 hours ago ago

          I don't see why a slider couldn't work with "Auto".

          Setting the temperature where one end is minimum, the other is maximum, and between them you have a choice of degrees.

          Activated vents would probably be better kept as buttons instead of being on a slider, I might want to use the floor vents at the same time as the defroster.

          Fan speed (imo) should be on a knob, like a volume control. It would be fun to see it move, like a motorized pot on a receiver.

  • rodeoclown 19 hours ago ago

    There are several ideas here about how to elegantly combine physical switches, knobs, and dials with digital displays that I quite appreciate in this design.

    Some nice details: - There's digital readouts around the binnacle gauges - The physical needle on the speedo comes from the outside to leave the center available for the digital screen - The drive selector has a small screen (light?) in the center as an indicator

    The combination seems like it may create a quite polished feel if it's done well in motion.

  • justjash 19 hours ago ago

    Ugh, maybe I need to see it inside an actual car but overall looks like it could belong inside a small truck/SUV if you took away the Ferrari logos.

    I like the physical controls. I actually just traded off my truck over the weekend and the climate controls being through the screen were a major part of that decision. It still seems like the switches here are pretty minimal and might be annoying - do you have to go through the screen when your windshield starts to fog?

  • drzaiusx11 19 hours ago ago

    Fun to see Ive's pivot to adopting skeuomorphism (false analog clocks, etc) a design trend he famous opposed iirc.

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  • supermatt 19 hours ago ago

    Everything is a squircle (or whatever those continuously curved corners are called). I quite like it - but it definitely has Ives signature style.

  • aurea 19 hours ago ago

    Don't vibe with it. Give me a 2 door Porsche EV.

    • Hamuko 16 hours ago ago

      With touch panel controls everywhere?

  • qaq 19 hours ago ago

    It would look better in some Mini Cooper version

  • tonyedgecombe 19 hours ago ago

    It's going to be the thinnest Ferrari ever, machined out of a single block of aluminium (or is it aluminum).

    • klaff 16 hours ago ago

      Oh, it has to aluminium not aluminum, and probably aviation-grade aluminium.

  • glimshe 19 hours ago ago

    This makes Jony Ive look like a one trick pony. The dashboard is now a collection of tablet-looking things.

  • guga42k 19 hours ago ago

    Nest on wheels. Not my cup of espresso.

  • proee 13 hours ago ago

    The corner radius on those displays it getting out of hand.

  • t1234s 19 hours ago ago

    Is this a glimpse into what the Apple Car interior components may have looked like?

    • elxr 19 hours ago ago

      Maybe the font (looks like SF pro), parts of the GUI, and the liberal use of glass surfaces.

      But there's absolutely no way the apple car would've had gauges anywhere near this physically complex, or a steering wheel that looks like this with the thin spokes and manettino. A lot of the switches also look significantly more premium that what you'd realistically expect from someone like apple making their first car.

  • donatj 19 hours ago ago

    It looks very much like something out of the Alien universe. I kind of love it.

  • butlike 18 hours ago ago

    So wait a couple of iterations for him to get used to designing for cars?

  • vax425 17 hours ago ago

    Why would he block cup holder access with a big steel bar?

    • jerlam 15 hours ago ago

      My guess is to protect the fancy physical switches below the screen that extend outward and would break on any lateral impact.

  • automatic6131 19 hours ago ago

    That steering wheel looks absolutely awful. Like a budget car. And the UX is rubbish. The easiest to reach buttons are ones that are nearly never needed: drive mode (usually used 0-2 times per trip), wiper mode (but no single wipe?). The only frequently used ones are the indicators - which I don't love but I guess stalks are a bit meh aesthetically - and the speed cruise. But sensors? Suspension? Why are they there?

    The clock looks like a dollar store alarm clock. The center console otherwise looks okay, environment management can be done easily, that's a good trend to continue.

    The instrument cluster has no aura - completely anonymous, doesn't make me think "Ferrari" or "high performance, high technology".

    Rounded square design language isn't fit for purpose in a ferrari, which is about aerodynamic shapes that reinforce that you're in a high-performance sports car.

    Jony Ive is a garbage-tier car designer. He'd fit in better at Kia. Or Volvo.

    • secretballot 19 hours ago ago

      > He'd fit in better at Kia

      Heh, my thought on opening the article and seeing the image was "huh, without the badge in the photo, if forced to guess the make, I'd have gone with Kia."

      • lbreakjai 13 hours ago ago

        Eh I don't know, I got a Kia Niro last month, the interior looks good.

    • Traster 18 hours ago ago

      It's very clear that at some point they decided stalks are bad, and so instead of having an indicator stalk - a universally understood control they decided to stick them all on the steering wheel so you can drive around looking at whether you want to be in Range, Tour or "Perfo" mode.

      • automatic6131 18 hours ago ago

        I think it's fine to lose the stalks - in a Ferrari. You're making tradeoffs in usability for aesthetics anyway so a few more makes sense. But the locations of these particular ones - at prime thumb access location, plus the high visibility of them... Not good!

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    • maxwell 19 hours ago ago

      What are some car interiors with good/better design to you?

      • automatic6131 18 hours ago ago

        Good car interior design fulfills the functions of: usability; sensibility and brand identity. What's good for a LaFerrari (which has many of the same feature on the wheel as this, but imo, better) is not going to be good on a Hyundai i20 and vice versa.

        But BMW is, in general, very good at finding a design language that fits all the right buttons in the right places while feeling like a mid-to-up market car. It's a blend of usability and aesthetics and brand (+model) identity that finds a really good balance across all three categories.

  • lunias 19 hours ago ago

    Not a big fan, get Dieter Rams to do it.

  • hnburnsy 14 hours ago ago

    Am I the only one who hates, absolutely hates rounded corners, and modern cars do not require a start/stop button or air vents.

  • loloquwowndueo 19 hours ago ago

    Yuck looks like someone grabbed an AI and said “design me a car interior where everything looks like an iPhone”

  • dundundundun 14 hours ago ago

    This is stupid.

    I'm lucky enough to have driven quite a few modern Ferraris (488, 812, FF, California) and what they have in common is that their interiors are not very pretty or advanced, but everything is where you'd expect and gives the info you need (that is, apart from the horrible non-deterministic placement of the indicator switches on the steering wheel).

    This is not a Ferrari interior. It's an interior for rich people who will buy a Ferrari EV and think they have a Ferrari. Like the Purosangue before it, it cosplays as a Ferrari while diluting the brand.

    I recently went straight from a California to a Miata ND, and the Miata is just so much more fun in every conceivable way. Cheaper interior for sure, but it can actually be used in fun ways on normal roads and you cannot hide weight with electronics.

    • CamperBob2 11 hours ago ago

      I recently went straight from a California to a Miata ND

      I, too, shorted NVDA

  • sambapa 18 hours ago ago

    It looks like those "Xbox 720" "leaks" in 2009

  • deafpolygon 15 hours ago ago

    Chamfer edges… good ol’ Ive hasn’t changed much.

  • cnobody 19 hours ago ago

    one trick, out of fashion, pony.

  • danieloj 19 hours ago ago

    Very iPhone

  • _giorgio_ 19 hours ago ago
  • trollbridge 19 hours ago ago

    "Jony, I've designed [the] Ferrari Luce EV interior".

  • 6stringmerc 18 hours ago ago

    This is the first automotive interior design for the blind.

    It’s a mess. Disparate palettes even in grey is a serious WTF accomplishment. The ring over the Launch button is absolutely superfluous and idiotic at the same time. No function and even worse form.

    Ugh. Enzo at least can power the first charge from the output of him spinning in his grave. Yes, I could do better.

    • butlike 18 hours ago ago

      Agreed. It's a travesty.

  • diego_moita 19 hours ago ago

    "Ferrari EV"

    This is something that we need to read slowly.

    The "ferraristas" have been the most ardent sect on the cult of the internal combustion engine.

    If these guys can be converted, then, probably, the last holdout in veneration of oil will probably be the government of the United States.

  • seydor 20 hours ago ago

    Iphone 4 vibes.

    I wonder how an ai would design it.

    Aren't those designs copyrighted by apple?