Claws are now a new layer on top of LLM agents

(twitter.com)

29 points | by Cyphase 13 hours ago ago

19 comments

  • vivzkestrel 11 hours ago ago

    I still dont understand the hype for any of this claw stuff

    • stingraycharles 4 hours ago ago

      It’s as if ChatGPT is an autonomous agent that can do anything and keeps running constantly.

      Most AI tools require supervision, this is the opposite.

      To many people, the idea of having an AI always active in the background doing whatever they want them to do is interesting.

  • arjie 5 hours ago ago

    The openclaw rough architecture isn’t bad but I enjoyed building my own version. I chose rustlang and it works like I want. I made it a separate email address etc. and Apple ID. The biggest annoyance is that I can’t share Google contacts. But otherwise it’s great. I’m trying to find a way to give it a browser and a credit card (limited spend of course) in a way I can trust.

    It’s lots of fun.

  • hoss1474489 9 hours ago ago

    It’s a slow burn, but if you keep using it, it seems to eventually catch fire as the agent builds up scripts and skills and together you build up systems of getting stuff done. In some ways it feels like building rapport with a junior. And like a junior, eventually, if you keep investing, the agent starts doing things that blow by your expectations.

    By giving the agent its own isolated computer, I don’t have to care about how the project gets started and stored, I just say “I want ____” and ____ shows up. It’s not that it can do stuff that I can’t. It’s that it can do stuff that I would like but just couldn’t be bothered with.

  • simonw 13 hours ago ago

    I think "Claw" as the noun for OpenClaw-like agents - AI agents that generally run on personal hardware, communicate via messaging protocols and can both act on direct instructions and schedule tasks - is going to stick.

  • YetAnotherNick 4 hours ago ago

    What is anyone really doing with openclaw? I tried to stick to it but just can't understand the utility beyond just linking AI chat to whatsapp. Almost nothing, not even simple things like setting reminders, worked reliably for me.

    It tries to understand its own settings but fails terribly.

  • Cyphase 13 hours ago ago

    inb4 "ClAWS run best on AWS."

    • aitchnyu 4 hours ago ago

      Lots of hosting companies advertising managed claws, dunno how responsible they are about security.

  • aalam 13 hours ago ago

    I'll never understand the hype of buying a Mac Mini for this though. Sounds like the latest matcha-craze for tech bros

    • phil21 8 hours ago ago

      It’s really just easier integrations with stuff like iMessage. I assume easier for email and calendars too since that’s a total wreck trying to come up with anything sane for Linux VM + gsuite. At least has been from my limited experience so far.

      Other than that I can’t really come up with an explanation of why a Mac mini would be “better” than say an intel nuc or virtual machine.

      • steve1977 7 hours ago ago

        Unified memory on Apple Silicon. On PC architecture, you have to shuffle around stuff between the normal RAM and the GPU RAM.

        Mac mini just happens to be the cheapest offering to get this.

        • cromka 7 hours ago ago

          But the only cheap option is 16GB basic tier Mac Mini. That's not a lot of shared memory. Proces increase bery quickly for expanded memory models.

          • WA 7 hours ago ago

            Why though? The context window is 1 millions token max so far. That is what, a few MB of text? Sounds like I should be able to run claw on a raspberry pi.

          • steve1977 7 hours ago ago

            I meant cheap in the context of other Apple offerings. I think Mac Studios are a bit more expensive in comparable configurations and with laptops you also pay for the display.

    • skybrian 10 hours ago ago

      I'm guessing maybe they just wanted an excuse to buy a Mac Mini? They're nice machines.

    • pitched 11 hours ago ago

      It would be much cheaper to spin up a VM but I guess most people have laptops without a stable internet connection.

  • jauntywundrkind 9 hours ago ago

    Looking forward to seeing what we get next Christmas season, with the Claws / Clause double entendres.

  • DiabloD3 11 hours ago ago

    Problem is, Claws still use LLMs, so they're DOA.

    • Cyphase 10 hours ago ago

      Is the problem you're thinking of LLMs, or cloud LLMs versus local ones?