My family pricing went up by 20%, from $59.88 USD to $71.88 per year.
I like 1Password a lot. I've used it for 10 years. It's never lost a single thing, and I don't recall any downtime that impacted me. It's easy to setup and 99% hassle free. Works on my various device types (windows, mac, ios). It supports passkeys and 2FA codes. I like having shared and private vaults. I love the ability to share an auto-expiring, one-time-view link to a password. And the billing is a simple subscription fee.
I could do without some bloat. Watchtower feels like an enterprise need that is otherwise low-value and (by default) noisy for individuals/families. I obviously don't need "AI" forced into my password manager. I didn't love the version 7 to 8 transition that required a new app/extension to be installed. But all of that is really not so bad.
So yeah, I don't feel like I'm getting any additional value that justifies the price increase, but it's still more than worth it for me.
I stopped my 1Password subscription last year and started using Apple Passwords. The user experience is great if you switch to Safari with fingerprint login.
I get a lot of value from 1Password but the software quality has fallen.
There was a period of time that 1P would constantly grab window focus on macOS, they must have finally fixed it because after months of it randomly happening I don't think it's happened for at least 4 months. Then there is stuff like adding a new item, the search "Try searching anything", well, at least as long as "Anything" is not the _type_ of new item you want to create...
If I search "API" because I want to create an API key entry it shows be a bunch of worthless suggestions of websites (why would that be useful?) and at the bottom just injects my search term into the name of the 3 top "types" of item you can make. I have to expand it and scroll down to find API Credential. This is maddening to me. In part because of the mocking "Try searching anything", which is just clearly BS, and in part because I find the website search 100% useless and the only thing I care to search on is the types of new 1Password item I might create.
I've had good experiences with KeePassXC. In addition to being able to store your passwords, it can ingest TOTP seeds. And finally, it's open source and cross platform. (I originally stumbled upon it because it was the only KeePass implementation that tried to look like a native MacOS app)
This is a killer feature for me, since apparently iOS backups do not backup your TOTP generators in Google Authenticator, which I discovered after I wiped my phone and restored it thinking I was perfectly safe doing so given I had a backup.
I now encourage all the folks I mentor to set up a KeePass vault for the TOTP seeds.
There's even an option to generate one of those fancy QR codes that apps like authenticator can use, so the two are not mutually exclusive.
If you're an individual, not an enterprise user, I don't see why anyone would pay for a password manager.
I login/unlock my password manager maybe...a dozen times a week and that would be a high count when I'm doing "business" and logging in for financial things.
A commenter here recently just asked me if I have considered BitWarden due to my gripes with KeePass. KeePass cannot rent-seek off my passwords. You can of course host BitWarden, but the official software can always get worse (see Minio). Thankfully we have community run versions of the BitWarden server (VaultWarden), whereas 1password customers are left to dry. There just isn't any money in personal password managers, and restricting features like TOTP (BitWarden free tier) rarely entices the average person to get a paid plan.
They still don't have support for recovery codes and links to secrets between vaults... Their Chrome extension stopped working for most websites, especially for credit cards! The Electron app is using plenty of RAM.
I checked with their "AI chat" about whether I could lock in current prices by renewing early but they said they would not allow this. I'm kind of surprised that there is no option to do this (I see Jetbrains as an example of a company which makes this very easy)
I've been a 1password customer for many years, so I'm a bit bummed out about this.
Very disappointed by this. I've been a customer for many, many years on a Family plan, but I do not understand this price raise. The only reason they raise price is definitely because of the need to answer to investors, and the necessary enshitification that follows. While I understand every business needs to generate revenues, they put on us, the customers, the burden of their rapid hiring spree and growing operating costs. It's just sad. There is just so much you can charge for managing passwords, and the family plan becomes way too expensive for the value it truly provides. We will need to switch to a less expensive competitor.
Yeah, pretty disappointed by this as well. The app has been getting buggier overtime and I was already considering leaving, so this was the push I needed.
Seems like the most popular players in this space are Bitwarden and KeePass, does anybody have a positive or negative experience to share with either?
I don't like Bitwarden UI/UX. It looks not really polished. Especially the "folders" are akward. How the implemented it, calling them labels and designing them like labels would make way more sense. But the whole UI looks like software developers - and not designers - built it.
I think I tried using it maybe 4 years ago or so, and I had the same feeling. It just felt.. awkward to use, lots of friction. I was hoping it had changed by now, but I guess that hasn't happened.
Bitwarden is a shit product lacking basic niceties: search is terrible (substring match is beyond first page of results), UI is sometimes non-async (typing freezes search), no way to sort by newest/date added, no way to make two note (textarea) fields, no way to expand it, consumes memory and CPU etc
However, it’s open-source, cross platform and sorta works.
It's been little things and mainly usability/polish things.
Sometimes the vault doesn't unlock and I have to enter in my password 2-3 times.
It doesn't always capture all information from a page properly when creating a new login and there are additional fields to capture.
The "detecting if a website supports key passes and one time password" feature for Watchtower was overwhelming with lots of information, until I clicked each one and had to ignore it.
These reasons alone are not enough for me to leave, the 3 big problems are below.
1 - I was feeling more uncomfortable having websites promote using passkeys, and I would store that in 1Password, but then I wasn't sure if 1Password as going to make it easy to migrate that stuff out. So, I want to use something open source, so I don't have to worry about losing access/managing that stuff in a propertiery/closed product. It might be easy to export/migrate out today, until something changes and they no longer allow that or make it very difficult/hard to scale/automate.
2 - I have a strong feeling this price increase is being justified by "AI" somehow. I'm sure, like all other companies, 1Password is internally forcing/requiring its developers to use coding models, and sonnet, opus, etc are expensive to use and the cost adds up. Also, I don't like the direction of where things are headed, where people are becoming more relaxed and not reviewing code properly and merging in code that will cause security issues later (perhaps openclaw fits into this bucket) or they are taking open-source code they laundering it for companies internally to use (I can't prove this, but if a model is trained on public data/code, it seems very likely). Something about that just bothers me especially when a company is worth billions of dollars.
3 - I've spent the last 3 years building up my homelab and using Pikapods for hosting various things. I want to support open-source more and run my own things and pay supporters properly to maintain things. I've always been a bit nervous what might happen if 1Password gets hacked, either because of poor security or due to a third party vendor. I still have the problem of my things getting hacked, but I pay more attention to how I secure things and use Tailscale and not publish things on the broad internet (when it makes sense). Also, I would be a hypocrite to dismiss the value of coding llms, as I'm using them myself. But how I'm using them, I'm using them to do security reviews of my docker compose files or kubernetes yaml files. Having coding llms has made it so much easier to maintain a homelab.
Personally I've had issues with Windows Hello integration for a while. It worked for a while but then didn't anymore. Everything is right and best I could find was the team saying it's some weird issue with TPM. Once I put in my master password the Hello integration is fine. It's just storing the key in TPM that doesn't work. So every restart I need to put in the master password. Granted my desktop is a Ryzen 2 system but still.
1password is by far my most recommended subscription to friends and family.
In a world where almost every single app or service I use has thrown me into a rage from enshittification or show-stopping bugs or both, where I can hardly even type this message because even iOS keyboards have regressed… 1password is actually a great service that makes my life objectively better.
I put them in an exclusive S-Tier with, surprisingly, Chase Mobile (in recent years), Signal, Google Sheets, and maybe an few others. They just work.
Since the rest of them ignore my 1 star App Store reviews and my desperate, detailed bug reports, the only power I have left is to support good software and recommend it to friends.
My experience has been the opposite, they have become worse and worse since the early days when they were small Mac shop with a standalone app. It's really death by a thousand papercuts now. Sometimes it cannot fill a password, sometimes it loses the connection between the browser plugin and the native app and doesn't really fill anything at all anymore, the interface sucks compared to the native Mac version, etc.
The only reason I have not migrated away is that my wife and daughter also use it (1Password Family) and it seems like a huge task to properly migrate the hundreds of passwords, tens of passkeys, etc. Maybe this is the final straw.
What banking tasks are you doing that other apps don't seem to handle -- are you trading stocks or something?
I basically never use a banking app except to deposit a check (which all the various apps seem to handle well now) or transfer money from the checking account that receives my direct deposit to the account I use at ATMS. (Love that air gap).
Really? To me that app is like the WeChat of banking. It just does so many things. Do not even get my started on the non-standard long totp that they force you to enter when trying to navigate certain parts of the app (you're already authed, why reauth?!).
I think the Schwab app-for doing as many things as the Chase app, is a much smoother experience.
Not stoked but it's the first since I've joined. Not an insane jump. Seeing Bitwarden go up had me wondering. It's still the best all rounder password manager I've used. Has everything and does it all really well. If Bitwarden could integrate their Reports feature into the app that might be a compelling reason to come back.
Got the same. Kind of a bummer to see “AI powered item naming”. Who needs this shit? Hope the price increase is not to cover their useless AI spendings. Otherwise I’m happy with 1Password.
My family pricing went up by 20%, from $59.88 USD to $71.88 per year.
I like 1Password a lot. I've used it for 10 years. It's never lost a single thing, and I don't recall any downtime that impacted me. It's easy to setup and 99% hassle free. Works on my various device types (windows, mac, ios). It supports passkeys and 2FA codes. I like having shared and private vaults. I love the ability to share an auto-expiring, one-time-view link to a password. And the billing is a simple subscription fee.
I could do without some bloat. Watchtower feels like an enterprise need that is otherwise low-value and (by default) noisy for individuals/families. I obviously don't need "AI" forced into my password manager. I didn't love the version 7 to 8 transition that required a new app/extension to be installed. But all of that is really not so bad.
So yeah, I don't feel like I'm getting any additional value that justifies the price increase, but it's still more than worth it for me.
I stopped my 1Password subscription last year and started using Apple Passwords. The user experience is great if you switch to Safari with fingerprint login.
I get a lot of value from 1Password but the software quality has fallen.
There was a period of time that 1P would constantly grab window focus on macOS, they must have finally fixed it because after months of it randomly happening I don't think it's happened for at least 4 months. Then there is stuff like adding a new item, the search "Try searching anything", well, at least as long as "Anything" is not the _type_ of new item you want to create...
If I search "API" because I want to create an API key entry it shows be a bunch of worthless suggestions of websites (why would that be useful?) and at the bottom just injects my search term into the name of the 3 top "types" of item you can make. I have to expand it and scroll down to find API Credential. This is maddening to me. In part because of the mocking "Try searching anything", which is just clearly BS, and in part because I find the website search 100% useless and the only thing I care to search on is the types of new 1Password item I might create.
Video: https://cs.joshstrange.com/jFqYXC8q
I've had good experiences with KeePassXC. In addition to being able to store your passwords, it can ingest TOTP seeds. And finally, it's open source and cross platform. (I originally stumbled upon it because it was the only KeePass implementation that tried to look like a native MacOS app)
This is a killer feature for me, since apparently iOS backups do not backup your TOTP generators in Google Authenticator, which I discovered after I wiped my phone and restored it thinking I was perfectly safe doing so given I had a backup.
I now encourage all the folks I mentor to set up a KeePass vault for the TOTP seeds.
There's even an option to generate one of those fancy QR codes that apps like authenticator can use, so the two are not mutually exclusive.
If you're an individual, not an enterprise user, I don't see why anyone would pay for a password manager.
Completely worth it to me. It would be an incredible value at twice the price and part of my daily workflow on all machines.
+1
For pure peace-of-mind managing a family and all our passwords and digtial security, it's value is far more than this monthly cost
Same, just excellent software that I use 100+ times per day.
Quality matters in what you use constantly.
100+ times a day? Explain yourself.
I login/unlock my password manager maybe...a dozen times a week and that would be a high count when I'm doing "business" and logging in for financial things.
A commenter here recently just asked me if I have considered BitWarden due to my gripes with KeePass. KeePass cannot rent-seek off my passwords. You can of course host BitWarden, but the official software can always get worse (see Minio). Thankfully we have community run versions of the BitWarden server (VaultWarden), whereas 1password customers are left to dry. There just isn't any money in personal password managers, and restricting features like TOTP (BitWarden free tier) rarely entices the average person to get a paid plan.
They still don't have support for recovery codes and links to secrets between vaults... Their Chrome extension stopped working for most websites, especially for credit cards! The Electron app is using plenty of RAM.
I checked with their "AI chat" about whether I could lock in current prices by renewing early but they said they would not allow this. I'm kind of surprised that there is no option to do this (I see Jetbrains as an example of a company which makes this very easy)
I've been a 1password customer for many years, so I'm a bit bummed out about this.
Very disappointed by this. I've been a customer for many, many years on a Family plan, but I do not understand this price raise. The only reason they raise price is definitely because of the need to answer to investors, and the necessary enshitification that follows. While I understand every business needs to generate revenues, they put on us, the customers, the burden of their rapid hiring spree and growing operating costs. It's just sad. There is just so much you can charge for managing passwords, and the family plan becomes way too expensive for the value it truly provides. We will need to switch to a less expensive competitor.
If they write a native (non Electron) app, fine.
Fortunately 1P6 with one time purchase still works. I don't care about this company since then.
That has to be the lamest use of “AI” to justify price increases.
Yeah, pretty disappointed by this as well. The app has been getting buggier overtime and I was already considering leaving, so this was the push I needed.
Seems like the most popular players in this space are Bitwarden and KeePass, does anybody have a positive or negative experience to share with either?
I don't like Bitwarden UI/UX. It looks not really polished. Especially the "folders" are akward. How the implemented it, calling them labels and designing them like labels would make way more sense. But the whole UI looks like software developers - and not designers - built it.
That makes sense.
I think I tried using it maybe 4 years ago or so, and I had the same feeling. It just felt.. awkward to use, lots of friction. I was hoping it had changed by now, but I guess that hasn't happened.
Bitwarden is a shit product lacking basic niceties: search is terrible (substring match is beyond first page of results), UI is sometimes non-async (typing freezes search), no way to sort by newest/date added, no way to make two note (textarea) fields, no way to expand it, consumes memory and CPU etc
However, it’s open-source, cross platform and sorta works.
Ah that's disappointing.
So you've just been with 1Password then? Did you try KeePass or anything else?
No I'm using Bitwarden and hate it :)
What bugs have you encountered? It’s been flawless for me.
It's been little things and mainly usability/polish things.
Sometimes the vault doesn't unlock and I have to enter in my password 2-3 times.
It doesn't always capture all information from a page properly when creating a new login and there are additional fields to capture.
The "detecting if a website supports key passes and one time password" feature for Watchtower was overwhelming with lots of information, until I clicked each one and had to ignore it.
These reasons alone are not enough for me to leave, the 3 big problems are below.
1 - I was feeling more uncomfortable having websites promote using passkeys, and I would store that in 1Password, but then I wasn't sure if 1Password as going to make it easy to migrate that stuff out. So, I want to use something open source, so I don't have to worry about losing access/managing that stuff in a propertiery/closed product. It might be easy to export/migrate out today, until something changes and they no longer allow that or make it very difficult/hard to scale/automate.
2 - I have a strong feeling this price increase is being justified by "AI" somehow. I'm sure, like all other companies, 1Password is internally forcing/requiring its developers to use coding models, and sonnet, opus, etc are expensive to use and the cost adds up. Also, I don't like the direction of where things are headed, where people are becoming more relaxed and not reviewing code properly and merging in code that will cause security issues later (perhaps openclaw fits into this bucket) or they are taking open-source code they laundering it for companies internally to use (I can't prove this, but if a model is trained on public data/code, it seems very likely). Something about that just bothers me especially when a company is worth billions of dollars.
3 - I've spent the last 3 years building up my homelab and using Pikapods for hosting various things. I want to support open-source more and run my own things and pay supporters properly to maintain things. I've always been a bit nervous what might happen if 1Password gets hacked, either because of poor security or due to a third party vendor. I still have the problem of my things getting hacked, but I pay more attention to how I secure things and use Tailscale and not publish things on the broad internet (when it makes sense). Also, I would be a hypocrite to dismiss the value of coding llms, as I'm using them myself. But how I'm using them, I'm using them to do security reviews of my docker compose files or kubernetes yaml files. Having coding llms has made it so much easier to maintain a homelab.
Personally I've had issues with Windows Hello integration for a while. It worked for a while but then didn't anymore. Everything is right and best I could find was the team saying it's some weird issue with TPM. Once I put in my master password the Hello integration is fine. It's just storing the key in TPM that doesn't work. So every restart I need to put in the master password. Granted my desktop is a Ryzen 2 system but still.
1password is by far my most recommended subscription to friends and family.
In a world where almost every single app or service I use has thrown me into a rage from enshittification or show-stopping bugs or both, where I can hardly even type this message because even iOS keyboards have regressed… 1password is actually a great service that makes my life objectively better.
I put them in an exclusive S-Tier with, surprisingly, Chase Mobile (in recent years), Signal, Google Sheets, and maybe an few others. They just work.
Since the rest of them ignore my 1 star App Store reviews and my desperate, detailed bug reports, the only power I have left is to support good software and recommend it to friends.
My experience has been the opposite, they have become worse and worse since the early days when they were small Mac shop with a standalone app. It's really death by a thousand papercuts now. Sometimes it cannot fill a password, sometimes it loses the connection between the browser plugin and the native app and doesn't really fill anything at all anymore, the interface sucks compared to the native Mac version, etc.
The only reason I have not migrated away is that my wife and daughter also use it (1Password Family) and it seems like a huge task to properly migrate the hundreds of passwords, tens of passkeys, etc. Maybe this is the final straw.
>Chase Mobile
What banking tasks are you doing that other apps don't seem to handle -- are you trading stocks or something?
I basically never use a banking app except to deposit a check (which all the various apps seem to handle well now) or transfer money from the checking account that receives my direct deposit to the account I use at ATMS. (Love that air gap).
> Chase Mobile
Really? To me that app is like the WeChat of banking. It just does so many things. Do not even get my started on the non-standard long totp that they force you to enter when trying to navigate certain parts of the app (you're already authed, why reauth?!).
I think the Schwab app-for doing as many things as the Chase app, is a much smoother experience.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47139951
VC money at work baby!
Not stoked but it's the first since I've joined. Not an insane jump. Seeing Bitwarden go up had me wondering. It's still the best all rounder password manager I've used. Has everything and does it all really well. If Bitwarden could integrate their Reports feature into the app that might be a compelling reason to come back.
Seems excessive
Earlier: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47139951
Got the same. Kind of a bummer to see “AI powered item naming”. Who needs this shit? Hope the price increase is not to cover their useless AI spendings. Otherwise I’m happy with 1Password.