> For starters, it is spelled “Alena” so people who see it in writing pronounce it the way it is spelled [...] Yes, it’s spelled with an e because there is a letter exactly like that but with two dots above it in the Russian language and it sounds more like o
I know the article is mostly about speech, but I wish the immigration process or w/e just went with <Alyona>.
<ё> in Russian never represents anything close to <e> in English. It's /ʲo/ (superscript j for palatalization of the previous consonant) and iotized to /jo/ word initially. Its use over <йо>/<ьo> is strictly etymological - йогурт "yogurt" could've easily been ёгурт.
We're already picking correspondences by sound, like transliterating <л> as <l> and not <n>. There's no reason to complicate things by bringing in Russian orthographic rules into English.
My ex-wife’s name is Zapotec and spelled with ll representing a y-sound, something that has caused her continual distress in the roughly three decades she’s lived in the US. In comparison, Alena seems relatively tame (I would be inclined to pronounce it ah-LAY-na, but if I were wrong I would correct myself). The lack of care so many English speakers apply to any name beyond the “norm” is really kind of saddening. I had a Ukrainian co-worker whose name was Irena which should be prounced Ih-rey-nah, but most of our co-workers called her Eye-reen-uh which I imagine must have been grating to her.
When I was going to school for my teaching credential, I remember one of the professors saying that for our students, their name was the only thing that was truly theirs and it behooved us to get it right. I try to do that with anyone I meet.
> On-Topic: Anything that good hackers would find interesting. That includes more than hacking and startups. If you had to reduce it to a sentence, the answer might be: anything that gratifies one's intellectual curiosity.
> For starters, it is spelled “Alena” so people who see it in writing pronounce it the way it is spelled [...] Yes, it’s spelled with an e because there is a letter exactly like that but with two dots above it in the Russian language and it sounds more like o
I know the article is mostly about speech, but I wish the immigration process or w/e just went with <Alyona>.
<ё> in Russian never represents anything close to <e> in English. It's /ʲo/ (superscript j for palatalization of the previous consonant) and iotized to /jo/ word initially. Its use over <йо>/<ьo> is strictly etymological - йогурт "yogurt" could've easily been ёгурт.
We're already picking correspondences by sound, like transliterating <л> as <l> and not <n>. There's no reason to complicate things by bringing in Russian orthographic rules into English.
My ex-wife’s name is Zapotec and spelled with ll representing a y-sound, something that has caused her continual distress in the roughly three decades she’s lived in the US. In comparison, Alena seems relatively tame (I would be inclined to pronounce it ah-LAY-na, but if I were wrong I would correct myself). The lack of care so many English speakers apply to any name beyond the “norm” is really kind of saddening. I had a Ukrainian co-worker whose name was Irena which should be prounced Ih-rey-nah, but most of our co-workers called her Eye-reen-uh which I imagine must have been grating to her.
When I was going to school for my teaching credential, I remember one of the professors saying that for our students, their name was the only thing that was truly theirs and it behooved us to get it right. I try to do that with anyone I meet.
Dave's not here.
"The shortest poem is a name". The longest memory i own is also a name.
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> On-Topic: Anything that good hackers would find interesting. That includes more than hacking and startups. If you had to reduce it to a sentence, the answer might be: anything that gratifies one's intellectual curiosity.