12 comments

  • probably_wrong an hour ago ago

    While I understand the importance of "trusting your gut", I feel uneasy about telling people to just go with it because that's how you entrench confirmation biases: you don't know what's driving your judgement, you don't need evidence (in fact, you can now disregard it), and you have no way to assess the accuracy of that feeling except in those rare cases when you find out you were right.

    Sometimes your brain picks up that a person is dangerous in ways your rational mind cannot explain and you'd be thankful that you follow that feeling. But also sometimes your brain dislikes minorities in ways you're not comfortable accepting and now you're actively being part of the problem.

  • seertaak 2 hours ago ago

    In my experience, an indicator that my interlocutor is (possibly) lying/BSing, when challenged for an explanation for something they did, is that they provide a list of reasons. The person who's telling the truth just gives one.

  • infinitewars an hour ago ago

    Can't help but notice that Musk uses all of the techniques.

  • zabil 2 hours ago ago

    After watching a few seasons of traitors (UK) I feel none of these techniques work and may even end up accusing the wrong person.

    The show had former detectives and police folks failing miserably. It just boils down to evidence.

    • vintermann 2 hours ago ago

      But that's what this article argues. People changing their story IS evidence.

    • kgwxd 29 minutes ago ago

      All "reality" shows are scripted.

    • benrutter 2 hours ago ago

      I think this is what makes traitors such a popular series - absolutely everyone things they can tell when someone is lying, but the truth is it's really difficult. Especially if someone is a stranger, it's next to impossible to separate what might be possible tells from what might just be their personality.

  • JimmyBuckets 2 hours ago ago

    These don't work for very good liars. They know all these tricks, often intuitively, and purposefully avoid them. The only strategy that works is listening to your gut and extending trust slowly. Keeping up a ruse is tiring and the more time you give them, the more chance they have to make a mistake. Combine that with listening to the brain in your gut that has evolved for millions of years to sense danger. In the early stages, the mistakes are often subtle and you will usually only get a feeling that something is "off".

    • vintermann 2 hours ago ago

      On the contrary, relying on your gut is unreliable because they know how to play your gut, if they're experienced liars. They have the same tools as you when it comes to "sensing danger".

      But what this article focuses on, is that it's hard to be consistent when you're lying. That's my experience from social deduction type games too: don't focus on gut or "tells", focus on the "world they're building" in these games' in-speak, and how well it holds up compared to other worlds.

      • kuboble an hour ago ago

        I don't know.

        Culturally from a young age we're told to not trust our guts and a lot of people shut them off.

        "Don't judge a book by the cover", "you don't even know him". We're told to ignore our gut feeling especially if that feeling is consistent with negative stereotypes.

  • altacc 2 hours ago ago

    Good liars are able to avoid these tells and I reckon no system is perfect but the last point, trusting your gut, is probably the best as it combines a lot of conscious and subconscious observations into a judgement. I'm often unable to articulate why I trust or distrust a person but feedback from my close friends is that they'll look to me for signs about a new person we meet. You do also need to be willing to constant reevaluate and change opinions as more evidence is gathered.

  • jaccola 2 hours ago ago

    OK but most liars don’t fabricate an entire story.

    In the startup world they might claim to have 1.5x the rev they have, or that an impressive logo is trialling their product when really they’re in early talks, etc…

    Then it’s much easier to tell the “truth” with one twist and these methods fail.