21 comments

  • cedws a day ago ago

    “Supervised self-driving” feels like an oxymoron. It’s either safe enough to be completely autonomous or it’s not. There’s no way a human driver being assisted by self-driving is going to be ready to take over at a moments notice with the same awareness that they would have if they were driving the whole time. This is going to kill people.

    • sMarsIntruder a day ago ago

      No, it’s not.

      This solution went through millions of kilometres of data and tests.

      RDW did a really thorough job since we’re talking about Europe: https://www.rdw.nl/en/news/2026/rdw-explanation-of-european-...

      Stop. Spreading. FUD.

      • cedws a day ago ago

        RDW tested it themselves. That isn't real world usage. Real world drivers will not pay the same attention, and they'll do stupid shit like game the driver attention mechanism so they can watch TikTok.

        • sMarsIntruder a day ago ago

          This is FUD. Supervised means that the camera watches you in realtime keeping attention.

          But I get this type of comments just to go against one person.

          • cedws a day ago ago

            Yes. And people will find a way to game it like they always do.

          • DemocracyFTW2 18 hours ago ago

            > the camera watches you in realtime keeping attention

            If this is the world you want there's literally no common ground here

            • satvikpendem 17 hours ago ago

              How else would you determine whether the driver is paying attention?

      • hulitu a day ago ago

        Of course it is not. I also do "supervised self driving". In fact, everybody does it. The fact that Tesla drivers are only now able to do it, tell us something about their driving abilities.

        Stop. Spreading. FUD /s

        • sMarsIntruder a day ago ago

          So if you say BS you can just add /s and it’s fine?

  • TechTechTech a day ago ago

    > RDW said the EU sets stricter requirements for safety during vehicle approvals than the U.S. "This means that the FSD Supervised version in the U.S. is NOT comparable to the FSD Supervised version in the EU," it said, without providing further details.

    The Netherlands has one of the highest road safety standards in the world. More info on differences between USA and NL on the site of RDW (Dutch)

    https://www.rdw.nl/nieuws/2026/toelichting-rdw-op-europese-t...

    • hulitu a day ago ago

      > The Netherlands has one of the highest road safety standards in the world.

      But the Dutch are still not able to drive safely on the Autobahn.

  • jacobgorm 21 hours ago ago

    More like third in Europe after BMW and Ford, according to https://electrek.co/2026/04/10/tesla-fsd-supervised-approved...

    • one_more_q 19 hours ago ago

      First here relates to the first country that approved. Other OEMs already have hands off level two systems, nobody disputes that.

  • consp a day ago ago

    No article has mentioned insurance rates. I would not be surprised if this has consequences for that. I'm not saying this as good or bad but as insurers being cautious as the liability question in civil procedures ultimately comes to them.

    • one_more_q 19 hours ago ago

      In the US there are insurance companies that will give you a discount for each mile you drive with FSD enabled. That should give you an it’s on the impact…

  • expedition32 21 hours ago ago

    I wonder how this will pan out. In the Netherlands roads are mixed with old people walking their dog and children on bicycles going to school. We're not in Phoenix anymore.

  • black_13 a day ago ago

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  • 10lap a day ago ago

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    • zerzera a day ago ago

      Just plain quid pro quo (corruption). We get a mega factory, Tesla gets our approval.

      https://youtu.be/dii5jnZMAHQ

    • consp a day ago ago

      The testing procure has been going on for over two years. Including closed circuit testing.

      • hulitu a day ago ago

        > Including closed circuit testing.

        Which is irrelevant on real roads.

        "Our product works really well in the lab, it's the real environment that causes problems"