Slava's Monoid Zoo

(factorcode.org)

73 points | by luu 5 days ago ago

10 comments

  • voidUpdate 3 days ago ago

    > "Can you see a way to transform a string of 8 apples "" into a string of 10 apples ""?"

    Am I missing something? The only rules we have are BAB -> AAA and BBB -> BB, and we start with only A, no B, so neither of those rules can be used, so the answer is no?

    EDIT: Ah, looks like you cant put emoji in HN comments. Imagine there's apples in there

    • Phemist 3 days ago ago

      The relations are bi-directional. So you can change AAA -> BAB and BB -> BBB as well.

      • dhosek 3 days ago ago

        Yeah, that was the secret sauce that left me a bit confused

      • voidUpdate 3 days ago ago

        Oh, I see. That makes sense

    • undefined 3 days ago ago
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  • entaloneralie 3 days ago ago

    I'm too scared to leave the comfy world of commutative monoids.

    • Sesse__ 3 days ago ago

      Is the word problem easier if the monoids are commutative? (Or even trivial? I haven't thought deeply about it.)

      • hyperpape 3 days ago ago

        I haven't previously thought about this, but I think words over a commutative monoid are equivalent to a vector of non-negative integers, at which point you have vector addition systems, and I believe those are decidable, though still computationally incredibly hard: https://www.quantamagazine.org/an-easy-sounding-problem-yiel....

        • Sesse__ 3 days ago ago

          Thanks, that's an interesting tidbit!

          (The whole thing made me think about applications to SQL query optimizers, although I'm not sure if it's practically useful for anything.)

  • thecatwentup 3 days ago ago

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