It's ironic that the sample is blended with two other well known drum loops that most likely were not cleared either. From what I understand, drum samples are rarely cleared because they don't contain "music" in the traditional sense of music = melody + lyrics.
I can’t remember who they were talking about now, but I was listening to a podcast recently that had Questlove (drummer from The Roots) and he was retelling about the first time he met someone. As part of the intro he said something like “of course I know you, you sampled me on <track>” and then he laughed at their shock because they absolutely had not cleared the sample and he was just “hey, it’s alright. We’re cool”.
But it was wild to me to think that in the middle of a track there’s like a 2-3 sec bit of percussion and he can (correctly!) go “hey, that’s me!”. It wasn’t some looping thing throughout the song. Just a single sample. And he knew it was him playing it!
because he probably sampled it himself from another source and spent hours researching the original source and similar breaks then spent hours piling layers of sound and effects on these 2s. So he knows exactly which one is theirs
European bureaucracy is famously slow and the red tape can be extremely overwhelming and really hinders innovation at times, but this is another level. I wonder after so many years of this seemingly trivial 2 seconds, how interested both sides actually cared or if it was more of a novelty / precedent thing.
For comparison:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amen_break (used in thousands of tracks; zero royalties)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Sampled_drum_breaks
Here's the video to watch on the history of the Amen Break. It's very in-depth and I highly recommend it. I just noticed it's 20 years old too!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SaFTm2bcac
This has to be the best drum sample of all time.
It's ironic that the sample is blended with two other well known drum loops that most likely were not cleared either. From what I understand, drum samples are rarely cleared because they don't contain "music" in the traditional sense of music = melody + lyrics.
I can’t remember who they were talking about now, but I was listening to a podcast recently that had Questlove (drummer from The Roots) and he was retelling about the first time he met someone. As part of the intro he said something like “of course I know you, you sampled me on <track>” and then he laughed at their shock because they absolutely had not cleared the sample and he was just “hey, it’s alright. We’re cool”.
But it was wild to me to think that in the middle of a track there’s like a 2-3 sec bit of percussion and he can (correctly!) go “hey, that’s me!”. It wasn’t some looping thing throughout the song. Just a single sample. And he knew it was him playing it!
Yup, he had a few isolated drum hits on D'Angelo's Voodoo album that were sampled by absolutely everybody for a few years.
because he probably sampled it himself from another source and spent hours researching the original source and similar breaks then spent hours piling layers of sound and effects on these 2s. So he knows exactly which one is theirs
I think you missed the directionality of the anecdote. After that whole process, the drummer still recognized his work on the sample within the song.
European bureaucracy is famously slow and the red tape can be extremely overwhelming and really hinders innovation at times, but this is another level. I wonder after so many years of this seemingly trivial 2 seconds, how interested both sides actually cared or if it was more of a novelty / precedent thing.