Suprises no one. I remember reading that the IRGC is quite a distributed organization, and has planned for the exact situation they find themselves in today.
Im guessing they have lots of stuff stashed away only known to each IRGC "section"
Also, the USRAEL regime keeps feigning diplomacy after committing multiple egregious acts of perfidy. On more than one occasion they started bombing during or at beginning of negotiations.
It's game theory. You start developing nukes and risk US bombing you to stone age while killing your personally. But the moment you develop nukes, US will likely leave you alone. Choices.
I imagine with nukes they'd be much like Russia, or Pakistan, or India, or China. In other words, showing restraint and intelligence, and having a deterrent against wars of aggression from the world's highest-funded army.
US will kill more people through secondary effects of their aggression against Iran, than Iran's nuke ever would directly. True barbarians, except I understand English, so they sound to me less like bar bar bar, and more like a*holes. My gf tries to convince me US americans just don't care and are more like a bear in a porcelain shop. But dunno, I look at Cuba, Iran, Israel and lot of other places americans are very aggressive in/against and it's more like a*holes at this point to me. Whole porcelain shop is suffering. This just isn't the "we are big and stumbled a bit and broke stuff", anymore.
And what's truly ironic and moronic, is that the deal the talks are seeking a graceful exit for now would basically be a version of the JCPOA that was withdrawn for pretty much no reason in 2018. Which, if you are Iran, there is zero chance you're going to agree to anything like that anymore now they have all the leverage.
I don't think they should be experiencing regret. The power in nukes is not in using them, it's in the threat of using them. The threat of using them keeps you from being attacked, but once you actually use them, so will the other guys.
This war has pulled the tarp off of their control over the Strait of Hormuz though. That's a strategic weapon they can use without getting nuked back. Iran is much stronger than they were before the war; this was their Trinity test.
Suprises no one. I remember reading that the IRGC is quite a distributed organization, and has planned for the exact situation they find themselves in today.
Im guessing they have lots of stuff stashed away only known to each IRGC "section"
> Suprises no one.
Well, it is maybe a surprise to at least _one_ person! /s
Wait, so you're saying there are "WMDs" in the Middle East?
Fun and totally not sarcastic fact fact: the opposite of "Deja vu" is "jamais vu"
Why this was flagged? Censorship?
The amount of buffoonery on the US side is staggering.
1. Iran is always 2 weeks away from having nuclear missiles.
2. Iran's military capability is destroyed.
3. If Iran had nuclear warheads, it could successfully deploy them against the US.
4. If Iran had nuclear warheads and could deliver them, their leadership is so suicidal/stupid that it would trigger MAD.
Truly staggering buffoonery.
Also, the USRAEL regime keeps feigning diplomacy after committing multiple egregious acts of perfidy. On more than one occasion they started bombing during or at beginning of negotiations.
Bonus points for the correct use of the word perfidy. Great word.
The enemy is both strong and weak.
You really think the President of the United States would do that? Just go on the internet and tell lies?
"intelligence"
... so we need to hit them again...
If their regular missiles are bad enough, just imagine them with nukes.
All we seem to have done is prove to every non-nuclear country that they all SHOULD have nukes. Because it would have prevented Iran being invaded.
It's game theory. You start developing nukes and risk US bombing you to stone age while killing your personally. But the moment you develop nukes, US will likely leave you alone. Choices.
I imagine with nukes they'd be much like Russia, or Pakistan, or India, or China. In other words, showing restraint and intelligence, and having a deterrent against wars of aggression from the world's highest-funded army.
A few to Israel would solve a lot of problems.
US will kill more people through secondary effects of their aggression against Iran, than Iran's nuke ever would directly. True barbarians, except I understand English, so they sound to me less like bar bar bar, and more like a*holes. My gf tries to convince me US americans just don't care and are more like a bear in a porcelain shop. But dunno, I look at Cuba, Iran, Israel and lot of other places americans are very aggressive in/against and it's more like a*holes at this point to me. Whole porcelain shop is suffering. This just isn't the "we are big and stumbled a bit and broke stuff", anymore.
That sounds like Israel's problem. Iran doesn't possess a large enough missile to credibly nuke the US.
They could have had nukes long ago. They exercised restraint. We didn't. Just imagine the regret they are experiencing now.
Basically, Trump has taught some terrible people that they should have been even worse. The lesson will not be lost on their descendants.
And what's truly ironic and moronic, is that the deal the talks are seeking a graceful exit for now would basically be a version of the JCPOA that was withdrawn for pretty much no reason in 2018. Which, if you are Iran, there is zero chance you're going to agree to anything like that anymore now they have all the leverage.
Working hard, thank you!
I don't think they should be experiencing regret. The power in nukes is not in using them, it's in the threat of using them. The threat of using them keeps you from being attacked, but once you actually use them, so will the other guys.
This war has pulled the tarp off of their control over the Strait of Hormuz though. That's a strategic weapon they can use without getting nuked back. Iran is much stronger than they were before the war; this was their Trinity test.
The power of nukes is that you don't get attacked by the US or Israel or Russia or anyone else.
None of this would have happened if they had developed (or otherwise acquired) nuclear weapons. End of story.
Did they fire their missiles before they were surprise-attacked by Trump?
IMHO they should have nukes as a deterrent and to balance Israel.
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Removed from the front page as it should be as this violates YC submission rules.
I don’t know if this article was a good fit for HN or not, but you people are just as bad as the Biden-era info suppressors (Jankowitz etc).
Stop trying to control the flow of accurate information when it doesn’t benefit you. Let the crowd decide what’s relevant.
Article from the NYT with a vested interest in making the admin look bad = doubt
This administration doesn't need any help to look bad.