Dull senses, sharp senses whats it matter if the degrees of freedom for your actionable choices with news information dont affect the winning coalition? You're not even part of the selectorate
Remember how he said he could shoot somebody on Fifth Ave and not lose a single vote? Do you remember the shock and outrage (I was shocked for sure). But he was right. It's literally a cult and they'll drink the kool aid up till the end.
For any supporters upset with me calling it a cult, please note that I take no pleasure in that (it seriously depresses me). But the dynamics of his relationship with his followers is textbook cult behavior.
Trump's base is looking more and more like a cracked pot that can no longer hold together if moved or even poked that hard.
Original Trump or Die types like MTG and Tucker Carlson have split hard, others are raising concerns where previously the line was toed tight.
This news won't move the needle much, but larger issues like obvious corruption, Epstein files (still, ffs), the Iran NotWar and foreign policy in general are all exerting pressure.
November will be interesting, a time to see the resolution between cooking the electoral books to gin up the appearance of support and the increasing signs that chunks of the old base won't show in sufficient numbers to maintain control.
His basket (of deplorables) overfloweth. So many people who care not for the country or what's happening at all, but who have been totally sold into the anti-government Reaganism & conspiracy & anti-socialness being sold for decades and hyped up forever on Fox News & now far worse viral vectors.
The new rebels don't succeed, don't leave: they just work to destroy & rot away every institution, turn it into sick farce & joke, erode the nation whole 250 years latter. Because rich people cannot stand a state that endorses the welfare of the people.
This is true in the absolute, not just in this special case but in almost all national level elections of any democratic country. I am going out on a limb here, but I think this is mostly true.
"Most Americans voted", really has now come to mean most of the voting citizens voted for him. Now I wonder if that qualified statement is true or not.
Trump 2024 won 49.8% of the vote versus Harris' 48.3%, out of the 65.3% of eligible voters who voted (about 154 million of 174 million people.)
Trump's exact vote tally was 77,284,118. That many people voted for him, versus 74,999,166 for Harris (with Trump's margin of victory being 2,284,952 votes.)
There are approximately 300 million Americans. So even though Trump "won the popular vote" it it still correct that most Americans didn't vote for Trump. Not even more than half of voters voted for Trump. Trump having "won the popular vote" does not in any way mean that a majority of Americans or even voters supported him, that just isn't the way the system works.
Trump's base is still with the principles of the movement.
It's important not to confuse the popularity of the man with the popularity of what he represents. The American right has wanted 95% of what Trump is doing for decades - the game plan for this was written up by conservative think tanks and evangelical Christians. They may reject him but they'll vote for whomever the movement decides will be his inheritor. Trump's purpose was to be a chaos agent and get the fascists in the door, but the utility of a pure cult of personality only goes so far. Now they will need to nail down their power structures and propaganda, and get the bureaucracy running without him.
And the best thing (for them) is, the crazier Trump gets on his way out, the more reasonable their alternative looks. And he'll look even better when the shock of Trump's policies and the closing of the Strait of Hormuz start to hit hard within a Democratic administration.
The level of corruption is staggering.
The sheer volume dulls your senses to it if you're not staying alert.
Dull senses, sharp senses whats it matter if the degrees of freedom for your actionable choices with news information dont affect the winning coalition? You're not even part of the selectorate
As an outsider to the US it feels as if Trump's popular base is still with him, or am I misreading the room ? Downvote patterns would be revealing.
I suppose his base considers people like her as an enemy and all means are legitimate in this us vs them war.
If that be so, this is what most Americans wanted. You and I would be outliers.
Remember how he said he could shoot somebody on Fifth Ave and not lose a single vote? Do you remember the shock and outrage (I was shocked for sure). But he was right. It's literally a cult and they'll drink the kool aid up till the end.
For any supporters upset with me calling it a cult, please note that I take no pleasure in that (it seriously depresses me). But the dynamics of his relationship with his followers is textbook cult behavior.
Trump's base is looking more and more like a cracked pot that can no longer hold together if moved or even poked that hard.
Original Trump or Die types like MTG and Tucker Carlson have split hard, others are raising concerns where previously the line was toed tight.
This news won't move the needle much, but larger issues like obvious corruption, Epstein files (still, ffs), the Iran NotWar and foreign policy in general are all exerting pressure.
November will be interesting, a time to see the resolution between cooking the electoral books to gin up the appearance of support and the increasing signs that chunks of the old base won't show in sufficient numbers to maintain control.
The ones that split mostly did because it’s not profitable anymore, one podcaster that has been faithful had layoffs due to losing listeners
His basket (of deplorables) overfloweth. So many people who care not for the country or what's happening at all, but who have been totally sold into the anti-government Reaganism & conspiracy & anti-socialness being sold for decades and hyped up forever on Fox News & now far worse viral vectors.
The new rebels don't succeed, don't leave: they just work to destroy & rot away every institution, turn it into sick farce & joke, erode the nation whole 250 years latter. Because rich people cannot stand a state that endorses the welfare of the people.
Most Americans didn't vote for Trump.
This is true in the absolute, not just in this special case but in almost all national level elections of any democratic country. I am going out on a limb here, but I think this is mostly true.
"Most Americans voted", really has now come to mean most of the voting citizens voted for him. Now I wonder if that qualified statement is true or not.
BTW I did not downvote.
> This is true in the absolute, not just in this special case but in almost all national level elections of any democratic country.
Australia would like to remind everyone we have compulsory voting.
As pointed out: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48304293
Less than half of the actual voted citizens voted for him (or, for those that prefer, almost half of the actually voted citizens voted for him)
Noted.
Not sure why this is downvoted. Objectively true. Less than 50% of the popular vote, and that's just voting Americans.
Trump 2024 won the popular vote (surprisingly; I think that was the first time a Republican did that since the 1980s).
Trump 2024 won 49.8% of the vote versus Harris' 48.3%, out of the 65.3% of eligible voters who voted (about 154 million of 174 million people.)
Trump's exact vote tally was 77,284,118. That many people voted for him, versus 74,999,166 for Harris (with Trump's margin of victory being 2,284,952 votes.)
There are approximately 300 million Americans. So even though Trump "won the popular vote" it it still correct that most Americans didn't vote for Trump. Not even more than half of voters voted for Trump. Trump having "won the popular vote" does not in any way mean that a majority of Americans or even voters supported him, that just isn't the way the system works.
Trump's base is still with the principles of the movement.
It's important not to confuse the popularity of the man with the popularity of what he represents. The American right has wanted 95% of what Trump is doing for decades - the game plan for this was written up by conservative think tanks and evangelical Christians. They may reject him but they'll vote for whomever the movement decides will be his inheritor. Trump's purpose was to be a chaos agent and get the fascists in the door, but the utility of a pure cult of personality only goes so far. Now they will need to nail down their power structures and propaganda, and get the bureaucracy running without him.
And the best thing (for them) is, the crazier Trump gets on his way out, the more reasonable their alternative looks. And he'll look even better when the shock of Trump's policies and the closing of the Strait of Hormuz start to hit hard within a Democratic administration.
Where have I heard about weaponizing the DoJ from?
glad to see they're prioritizing only the most prolific and dangerous criminals in the nation
While ignoring the pedophile in the White House.
I'm happy for her.
When the case is thrown out she can seek compensation from Trump's "political weaponization" relief fund.
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