I guess that makes things like roads, schools, and hospitals a ‘handout’
In an interview with Joe Rogan on YouTube, Peter Thiel said that if people want roads, they should come together and build them or pay for them to be built.
Yup corporations that don't think they should pay taxes are entitled. You didn't school the populace, build the roads, provide natural disaster relief, etc to make your company possible in the first place.
> Thiel has purchased a six-bedroom mansion in Palermo Chico, a leafy central neighbourhood full of embassies. He has also bought land to build a home near Punta del Este, a Uruguayan beach town popular with Argentina’s wealthy, said one person familiar with his plans.
Great. So he is doing to Argentina, and now Uruguay, what he did to America
Interesting. I could speculate as to why, but has he said anything besides the anti-christ thing? That thing wasn't illuminative in any way. So is it:
* fear of new wealth taxes in the US styled in the California way
* fear of being shot like UHC CEO
* legal retaliation from a new adminstration
Perhaps a little of each but what weighting? And what else? Personally, I'm definitely working to ensure my wife and children have OCI status and their Taiwanese citizenship locked in so that we have escape hatches.
My wife is Taiwanese and I'm Indian. I'm certainly not stupid enough to read the average HN/Reddit thread on Indians and believe that things cannot rapidly change around me.
You'll find that Americans tend to vastly overestimate how much people in Taiwan actually think about the threat of China. Is there a threat? Yea. But its likelihood is very much still unknown.
In the meantime, Taiwan offers a pretty excellent quality of life, and it's a great option to have in your back pocket, if you're fortunate enough to have a legal pathway to live there.
I wonder why he thinks Milei is going to bring continued change over time? Argentina's economy has been a mess as long as I can remember, decades and decades. Why is Milei so different that's he's willing to move there? He must really see a change he can exploit.
Argentina is, indeed, quite puzzling. They shouldn’t be a mess, and they should vote better, but, yet, they never get to have a stable period of progress.
There are only two countries in the entire South America that DO NOT have the experience of having a democratically elected leader overthrown in a US-backed coup.
It's pretty funny that he's fleeing the US for fear of instability and rising anti-oligarch sentiment to Argentina. As though their collapsing society will treat him much better when the shit hits the fan.
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I guess that makes things like roads, schools, and hospitals a ‘handout’
In an interview with Joe Rogan on YouTube, Peter Thiel said that if people want roads, they should come together and build them or pay for them to be built.
https://youtu.be/klRb0_BAX9g?si=6GPB2Edq12Xzl3AY
It's 3.5 hours and I can't give a timestamp where exactly he said that and I really, really don't want to watch that again, so here's the transcript if you want to search: https://podcasts.happyscribe.com/the-joe-rogan-experience/21....
> come together and build them or pay for them to be built
That's just taxes!
The irony that Palantir's primary source of income is ... taxes. So clearly Thiel likes taxes, he just doesn't want rich people paying them.
Yup corporations that don't think they should pay taxes are entitled. You didn't school the populace, build the roads, provide natural disaster relief, etc to make your company possible in the first place.
Taxes also pay for pol and mil that keep people, including them, safe. Capitalist libertarians like to not think about that part.
Well, rather him and family go to Argentina, than come to New Zealand, where he's got his citizenship for doing... nothing.
As a New Zealander, I'd like to hope he 'did nothing' to get that citizenship, but I'm afraid it probably wasn't nothing.
The least he could do is keep his family in the country he’s helping destroy.
The whole point of destroying a country is to raid it of its wealth and to get out before it burns to the ground...
No one has the honor to ride a ship into the ground.
These days the captains would jump ship at the site of an iceberg and leave everyone to a certain death if there was a chance they'd lose 1 dollar.
The longer we go without a wealth tax the more we're allowing ourselves to be raided
> Thiel has purchased a six-bedroom mansion in Palermo Chico, a leafy central neighbourhood full of embassies. He has also bought land to build a home near Punta del Este, a Uruguayan beach town popular with Argentina’s wealthy, said one person familiar with his plans.
Great. So he is doing to Argentina, and now Uruguay, what he did to America
History sure rhymes.
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> And he’s not the first German to have found sanctuary in Argentina!
Interesting. I could speculate as to why, but has he said anything besides the anti-christ thing? That thing wasn't illuminative in any way. So is it:
* fear of new wealth taxes in the US styled in the California way
* fear of being shot like UHC CEO
* legal retaliation from a new adminstration
Perhaps a little of each but what weighting? And what else? Personally, I'm definitely working to ensure my wife and children have OCI status and their Taiwanese citizenship locked in so that we have escape hatches.
> so that we have escape hatches
From what? Those 3 things you point out above?
My wife is Taiwanese and I'm Indian. I'm certainly not stupid enough to read the average HN/Reddit thread on Indians and believe that things cannot rapidly change around me.
Yeah Taiwan isn’t under any sort of threat these days, good thinking /s
You'll find that Americans tend to vastly overestimate how much people in Taiwan actually think about the threat of China. Is there a threat? Yea. But its likelihood is very much still unknown.
In the meantime, Taiwan offers a pretty excellent quality of life, and it's a great option to have in your back pocket, if you're fortunate enough to have a legal pathway to live there.
Related: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ratlines_(World_War_II)
yeah, but Argentina has extradition treaty with US, he would stand better chance in Bolivia or Ecuador if it has to be America
I wonder why he thinks Milei is going to bring continued change over time? Argentina's economy has been a mess as long as I can remember, decades and decades. Why is Milei so different that's he's willing to move there? He must really see a change he can exploit.
"four types of countries: developed, underdeveloped, Japan, and Argentina." -Simon Kuznet.
Argentina is, indeed, quite puzzling. They shouldn’t be a mess, and they should vote better, but, yet, they never get to have a stable period of progress.
Maybe this will help
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_coups_in_Argentina
There are only two countries in the entire South America that DO NOT have the experience of having a democratically elected leader overthrown in a US-backed coup.
Ironically, to complete the pattern, the US has just established a (hereditary?) dictatorship in it's own green land. Via elections.
He still has to pay USA taxes no matter where he moves.
Sure, but he'll have optimized those away already.
It's pretty funny that he's fleeing the US for fear of instability and rising anti-oligarch sentiment to Argentina. As though their collapsing society will treat him much better when the shit hits the fan.
He can fly out when it bounces off the fan but well before it splashes on him.
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Is Argentina the new Florida because Palantir is destroying America?
It has been a prime destination for nazis for a long time. I guess they have a friendly government now.
But I heard Thiel say Elon said USA is the only place left.
Moving to Argentina to avoid political instability is like moving to Nigeria to avoid black people.
Argentina is way more politically unstable than the US and has a long socialist history.
If I were an arch-capitalist techno overlord, I would move to Singapore.
He’s not really evading instability.
He’s evading consequences for causing it.
wussy
so anyone have anything positive to say about him?
"Peter Thiel knows about the antichrist.."
I’m glad he’s gone
Good.
Why is this being flagged? It’s the FT, it’s factual, and we can deal with misconduct by flagging the individual comments.
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You think a major tech titan noping out to Argentina after burning down the system isn’t an interesting phenomenon?
I wish this were enforced broadly. Tired of seeing politics on the front page. I come here to avoid that crap.
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Yes, 100%.
You don't get to use that selectively for things you disagree with.
Maybe dang can respond. I am curious if this was flagged by users or just censored by mods.
Flagging is generally a user action, that mods sometimes override. I think there's a karma floor but otherwise anyone can do it.
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