15 comments

  • legitster 4 hours ago ago

    All of this goes to show just how good of a deal the JCPOA was. It took 20 months to negotiate, it had everything the US had ever asked Iran to cooperate on, and Iran was not only cooperating but on a path away from extremism.

    It was blown up out of pure spite, jealousy, and meddling from Netanyahu.

    Right now, it looks like we're looking at a deal that is significantly worse in every conceivable way.

  • abc42 3 hours ago ago

    That's roughly the same amount US has given Israel since 1948.

    Probably not directly comparable, mind you, but still a funny coincidence.

    • EA-3167 an hour ago ago

      When you consider how much of those "gifts" were required to be spent in the US and on US goods, it's much much more in the case of Iran. Granted this money isn't coming from the US, but the Gulf states.

  • solid_fuel 27 minutes ago ago

    There goes the US, losing a war again.

    This was a completely predictable to anyone with a basic understanding of either economics or geopolitics, and yet for weeks after the war broke out this forum was filled with people claiming it would be over in a matter of days with a guaranteed US victory. I predict these people will learn nothing, and they will continue to blindly support the fascist trump administration. After all, we're in a new age and conservatives have abandoned facts in favor of their feelings and fears.

  • Hugsbox 4 hours ago ago

    Art of the deal, ladies and gentlemen

  • JumpCrisscross 4 hours ago ago

    The side paying reparations is the side that lost the war.

    • AnimalMuppet 4 hours ago ago

      That's usually true. And yet... after WWII, the US paid a lot of money to rebuild Germany and Japan.

      Do I think that's what's going on here? No, I don't. Nor do I think that the money is real. (If it is, it sounds like it's coming from the Gulf states - essentially "please stop blowing us up" money.)

      • JumpCrisscross 3 hours ago ago

        A third of it is probably frozen assets [1].

        [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iranian_frozen_assets

        • Cpoll 3 hours ago ago

          Article makes some distinction, though the $25MM number doesn't match your link.

          > In addition to the U.S. and its allies paying $300 billion in reconstruction funds, Iran reports that the U.S. has agreed to release $25 billion in frozen Iranian assets.

          • JumpCrisscross 3 hours ago ago

            I’m wildly speculating that the amount of funds unfrozen will be higher. (I’ll add to that speculation by guessing some fraction of it will wind up with Trump, Kushner and Witkoff.)

      • jerlam 3 hours ago ago

        The governments of Germany and Japan were completely destroyed, their nations were then occupied and then rebuilt to be friendly to the US and other Western nations to fight against communism.

        But here, Iran's government has not been overthrown nor their nation occupied.

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  • bell-cot 4 hours ago ago

    > “That’s the sort of thing they could have access to, funded by the Gulf coast coalition, so long as they honor their end of the obligation..."

    How does that differ from "is theoretically possible, if a whole bunch of people who pretty much hate them decide to give them $billions anyway"?

    • rasz 2 hours ago ago

      It differs by thousands of drones that can level all the refineries in the gulf states that US failed to destroy and later intercept.