I'm glad that my country is doing this. On one hand, we have free healthcare and there is the argument that we don't need this and that it's just a way to save money on the weakest of us all. But in practice it is not the case.
I have 2 grandfathers who have been denied certain surgeries because they are too old, not because it would be dangerous, but because there are waiting lists of several years and they never get priorities. Now, none of them are in a hurry to use this procedure of course (only one mentionned going to Switzerland when he almost lost total mobility, but of course cannot afford it), but both of them are in pain, and when it will become excruciating and quality of life will converge to 0, I feel it is a much better prospect than staying for weeks in a hospital room, suffering despite the morphine, with the spouse having to book taxis for visits because of course nobody is going to pay for that.
We are talking about people who have enjoyed near 40 years of happy retirement and a slow but very steady health decline at the end, with lots of time to think and discuss this topic. To me it's a relief to think that I will have this option for myself eventually.
I'm surprised you said he couldn't afford Switzerland, I thought they weren't supposed to make money off help with dying? Are they secretly making money then, or is there paperwork that's expensive to file?
The Netherlands is a culture of incredibly pragmatic people who when they see a problem think of ways to solve it.
I find that in many different cultures nobody actually wants to talk about reality- painful, excruciating, undignified and soul crushing death.
As if you collectively ignore it such things do not exist.
So France got their stupid assisted-dying law too, how cool is that?
I am sure an App is being developed as we speak. The digital ID login will be buggy but it will be open source so you can contribute to fix the bugs before you ask to off yourself.
The thing is people have been ending their own lives or of others who can't since forever. It is actually very common.
It is like going number two, it is ugly but it is part of life. No need to have a scatophile parliament who can't balance a budget debate it for decades to have the state involved.
It has been framed as a fight between the crazy religious vs the emphatic who do not want people to suffer but it is just a common sense thing like going discretely to the toilet without having everyone involved.
I'm glad that my country is doing this. On one hand, we have free healthcare and there is the argument that we don't need this and that it's just a way to save money on the weakest of us all. But in practice it is not the case.
I have 2 grandfathers who have been denied certain surgeries because they are too old, not because it would be dangerous, but because there are waiting lists of several years and they never get priorities. Now, none of them are in a hurry to use this procedure of course (only one mentionned going to Switzerland when he almost lost total mobility, but of course cannot afford it), but both of them are in pain, and when it will become excruciating and quality of life will converge to 0, I feel it is a much better prospect than staying for weeks in a hospital room, suffering despite the morphine, with the spouse having to book taxis for visits because of course nobody is going to pay for that.
We are talking about people who have enjoyed near 40 years of happy retirement and a slow but very steady health decline at the end, with lots of time to think and discuss this topic. To me it's a relief to think that I will have this option for myself eventually.
I'm surprised you said he couldn't afford Switzerland, I thought they weren't supposed to make money off help with dying? Are they secretly making money then, or is there paperwork that's expensive to file?
https://features.dignityindying.org.uk/true-cost-dignitas/
Average £10k from UK
The whole thing takes a lot of time and multiple round trips and stays which is expensive.
Everybody is always making money, from the doctor to the person paid to build a machine to the person paid to move the body
The Netherlands is a culture of incredibly pragmatic people who when they see a problem think of ways to solve it.
I find that in many different cultures nobody actually wants to talk about reality- painful, excruciating, undignified and soul crushing death. As if you collectively ignore it such things do not exist.
Suffering in silence is not a moral victory.
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So France got their stupid assisted-dying law too, how cool is that?
I am sure an App is being developed as we speak. The digital ID login will be buggy but it will be open source so you can contribute to fix the bugs before you ask to off yourself.
The thing is people have been ending their own lives or of others who can't since forever. It is actually very common.
It is like going number two, it is ugly but it is part of life. No need to have a scatophile parliament who can't balance a budget debate it for decades to have the state involved.
It has been framed as a fight between the crazy religious vs the emphatic who do not want people to suffer but it is just a common sense thing like going discretely to the toilet without having everyone involved.
> The thing is people have been ending their own lives or of others who can't since forever.
How do they do this?
Merde !
It's "Putain de bordel de merde !"
Is _his_ wife so old ?
The stupid joke aside, why did you put the emphasis on his?