US DOT deleting bike lane references

(npr.org)

98 points | by aendruk 13 hours ago ago

96 comments

  • transitorykris 12 hours ago ago

    "Since nearly 80% of the population uses cars to get to work and their important medical appointments, we are taking a closer look at federal guidance to ensure American families have the infrastructure they need," the spokesperson said. "This is a common sense approach despite the Left's belief that everyone should ride a bike to their shoebox-sized apartment to eat crickets to achieve a phony climate agenda."

    Jumping straight into the middle of the article you might believe you stumbled onto The Onion.

    • troelsSteegin 11 hours ago ago

      I don't get it. Aren't most bike lanes on the far right?

      • fwipsy 11 hours ago ago

        In some places in Europe they're on the far left. I know Trump has a bit of a grudge against Europe, maybe that's what this is about.

      • bestouff an hour ago ago

        Obviously the far-right hates bike lanes.

    • scoofy 8 hours ago ago
    • techjamie 10 hours ago ago

      This logic fails on a couple levels. One, bike lanes are often not wide enough to support another car anyway. Two, Braess's paradox[1] is an effect that's been noticed for as long as we've had cars that adding a lane to a roadway will often show no improvement, and perhaps even add detriment, to a local traffic system.

      So I guess it's a common sense solution if you don't understand the first thing about roadway design?

      [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Braess%27s_paradox

    • mypalmike 12 hours ago ago

      I’m getting somewhat sick of Christian Nationalist trolls running the US government.

      • CamperBob2 11 hours ago ago

        Nothing can be done about it, so (shrug) praise the Lord and pass the Shell 93 octane, I guess. Can't fight a hundred-million strong cult.

        • nielsbot 11 hours ago ago

          There are many more non-cult people in the US, but they don't vote enough.

          As long as the government is captured by Capital, however, it's hard to make the case for them to "vote harder".

        • AlexandrB 11 hours ago ago

          No idea what you guys are talking about. The Christian faction of the right has waned significantly since the Bush presidency.

          • jimbokun 11 hours ago ago

            In the “I don’t see how this connects with the teachings of Jesus” sense I agree.

            In the self labeling as “Christian”, sense not so much.

          • macintux 10 hours ago ago

            The current administration is not remotely shy about proclaiming its interest in a Christian theocracy.

          • BoggleOhYeah 11 hours ago ago

            Given the level of involvement the Heritage Foundation has in the current administration, I think you're absolutely wrong.

        • jimbokun 11 hours ago ago

          Well you absolutely can but the next opportunity isn’t until 2028.

          • alpha_squared 11 hours ago ago

            > next opportunity isn’t until 2028

            There's an election every year (including special and midterms). The fight is annual and it's completely unfair to believe it's a quadrennial event and lead others to believe the same. Participate in your local elections. It's where all of this starts. The national is mostly noise that bubbles up and out.

    • idontwantthis 11 hours ago ago

      This kind of rhetoric is actually going to get cyclists killed. There are enough drivers on the road already who intentionally try to scare cyclists. This will push some of them over the hill to murder someone with their pickup truck.

      • aendruk 10 hours ago ago

        Just last week in Texas:

        The driver, identified as 31-year-old Charles Medina, then sped past the couple from behind. Rapp’s boyfriend responded to the maneuver by raising his hands and yelling, at which point Medina slammed his brakes, skidded to a stop and accelerated in reverse. Medina ultimately hit Rapp so forcefully that his “rear windshield was shattered completely”. He also allegedly left skidmarks from having “rapidly accelerated backwards” as well as apparently “steering towards something while backing up”. Emergency responders found Rapp unresponsive and lying face down in the roadway. She was pronounced dead after being taken to a hospital.

        https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jul/22/boxer-hannah...

        • actionfromafar an hour ago ago

          It’s unfortunately expected behaviour in fundamentalist societies.

        • idontwantthis 10 hours ago ago

          This one 5 years ago - https://www.thedrive.com/news/43060/coal-rolling-teen-that-h...

          I couldn't find out if he ever got convicted or sentenced to anything.

          But any cyclist, including myself, can tell you that there are people out there with murder in their hearts who want you to die just for the crime of delaying them by a few seconds.

          • ndsipa_pomu 2 hours ago ago

            > just for the crime of delaying them by a few seconds

            Often it's not an actual delay, but just a perception of a delay as the driver then arrives at the next queue a few seconds later which makes no difference to their total journey time.

    • jmclnx 12 hours ago ago

      Crazy, nothing like spending $ to eliminate something you can just let sit and ignore :)

      Well the rate were this world is going with Climate Change, in 50 to 100 years the only method of transportation will be walking. That is after what could be called "the migration wars".

      Getting out of fossil fuels should have started 30+ years ago. But people would rather have their children, grandchildren suffer far more then we would have if we took Climate Change seriously.

      • maxerickson 11 hours ago ago

        It's not just a sit and ignore thing, this will hit design guidelines that factor into future project funding.

        For example, a few years ago they replaced the bridge over a river just outside of town, adding a bike/pedestrian bridge on the side. This connects a county campground to town without requiring riding on the narrow bridge shoulder. Angry people oppose it because they think it's a waste.

      • Gud 3 hours ago ago

        Not just walking

        Biking, too!

    • Freedom2 11 hours ago ago

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      • atmavatar 11 hours ago ago

        No interpretation was made. That's literally a direct quote from the article, which is itself a direct quote from a DOT spokesperson.

      • datadrivenangel 11 hours ago ago

        The actual quotes in the article are more out there than the actual Onion (their print newspaper is great though)

      • danorama 11 hours ago ago

        Please, do explain which parts of the original quoted statement are made in good faith.

      • akerl_ 11 hours ago ago

        What is the good faith interpretation you’d suggest?

      • wtfwhateven 11 hours ago ago

        What?

    • jeffbee 12 hours ago ago

      If NPR was a real news organization, they would never have repeated, broadcast, or printed that statement. It is three dog whistles in a row, referring to various right-wing conspiracy theories about globalist agendas.

      • Jtsummers 12 hours ago ago

        > If NPR was a real news organization, they would never have repeated, broadcast, or printed that statement.

        That statement was provided by a DOT spokesperson as the explanation for the changes. As a real news organization, NPR was right to repeat the statements provided by the DOT so that their listeners (and readers) can know what the administration's views are. To do otherwise would be to hide facts from their listeners.

        • evan_ 11 hours ago ago

          if a government spokesperson provided that statement 20 years ago the story would be about the unhinged partisan DOT spokesperson, what maniac hired them, why hasn't the whole office been fired yet, and how a bizarre grievance-based policy ever got out the door in the first place. Now the media gets crazier stuff than this on an hourly basis and they just shrug.

      • cosmicgadget 10 hours ago ago

        Seems awfully newsworthy. And using direct quotes makes it difficult to brush aside as "librul media bias" or whatever.

      • pstuart 11 hours ago ago

        They are a real news organization. Even after losing federal funding they deliver the news without editorial. Perhaps editorial bias but that's inherent in all outlets.

        Question: if the news reports something you don't like, is it fake?

        • macintux 11 hours ago ago

          > Question: if the news reports something you don't like, is it fake?

          One of Trump’s many talents is corrupting language. The phrase “fake news” was originally used to criticize his many outright lies about what was going on in the world during his first run for office, but he managed to change the meaning to “anything that doesn’t show him in the best possible light”.

          He’s remarkably adept at demagoguery.

  • f17428d27584 12 hours ago ago

    "This is a common sense approach despite the Left's belief that everyone should ride a bike to their shoebox-sized apartment to eat crickets to achieve a phony climate agenda."

    The government we deserve.

    Nobody bother thinking coherent thoughts, insults and spurious non sequiturs are policy now.

    • jimt1234 11 hours ago ago

      That's one of the many problems I have with the current regime: they can't say anything without framing it as an opposition to some exaggerated bogeyman. I get it, politics is about messaging. But can't these fools, for once, rise above it and just do something without taking a jab?

      • jrmg 11 hours ago ago

        The worrying thing is that many supporters, and, I’ve come to believe more and more, many of the leaders and upper echelons of organizations on the right actually believe the exaggerated rhetoric is the truth.

      • tpm 2 hours ago ago

        No, they are forever captured in that narrative now, they can't jump out, that would kill their carreer.

    • protocolture 11 hours ago ago

      If only the most heavily armed civilian population on the planet had some way to deal with a tyrannical government they didn't like? Wouldn't that be good? Like some sort of guaranteed political liquidity built into their nations foundational documents? Like some sort of signpost about what to do when this exact shit happens? That they spent decades lecturing the rest of the world about? Wouldn't that be great. Too bad that doesn't exist.

  • paj26 11 hours ago ago

    How do children get around? They bicycle. For a party claiming to be pro-life, pro-family, pro-child, they don’t act like it.

    • actionfromafar an hour ago ago

      Nah, pro-family means pro nuclear family mom staying at home waiting for dad in his car.

  • johnnyApplePRNG 11 hours ago ago

    It's pretty clear that from the other side of the border that the man in charge is literally acting like an 80 year old 4chan b troll.

    He's just trying to get under everyone's skin and it's working.

    Look at those crowds of bikers... ICE protesters... no king protesters...

    He's a showman and he loves it.

    Stop giving him airtime.

    So what if federal funding doesn't recognize bike lanes or whatever this is about?

    Vote in competent city Councillors that will get bike lanes prioritized in your city if that's what you care about.

    • kgermino 11 hours ago ago

      A big part of the issue is that federal funding drives probably the majority of significant projects at all levels. We have a completely broken system where every project is a targeted towards winning a grant as much as if not more than the actual local need.

      Milwaukee WI has had several (awarded!) street reconstruction grants killed by this admin because they included bike lanes. They weren't bike lane _projects_, they are to primarily to rebuild crumbling unsafe streets, but they included bike lanes so the Fed's rescinded the grants and now most of the projects are dead. There's no local money to do it without the grants.

      The real fix for this is to fix the stupid system we have, but for now it's what we're stuck with and this has a real impact you can't overcome locally.

      • johnnyApplePRNG 11 hours ago ago

        What a mess. Condolences, and good luck down there.

  • fassssst 11 hours ago ago

    “DEI bike lanes” heh, despite cycling being over represented by middle aged white guys.

  • foco_tubi 11 hours ago ago

    Great, more ammunition for bad faith arguments from all sides.

    Unfortunately there's a healthy subset of the Democratic party which is also against road infrastructure improvements like bike lanes and traffic calming. Car brain is an affliction which does not discriminate.

    • muwtyhg 10 hours ago ago

      What does it add to both-sides this issue? It's not even addressing the post, it's just redirecting some of the blame to a group who have nothing to do with what the article addresses.

      • foco_tubi 9 hours ago ago

        The point is it is very much a “both sides” issue and some of the talking points across the aisle are pretty similar. That the administration is saying it only lends naysayers more authority, even if it’s not a moral or logical one.

        • muwtyhg 6 hours ago ago

          The point is the current (Republican) DOT is actively fighting against existing bike lanes.

          • foco_tubi 5 hours ago ago

            yes, and it is also true that many Democrats on local city councils and in mayoral roles are doing the same.

    • croes 11 hours ago ago

      There is a difference in being against bike lanes and calling them DEI.

      Only one of them is totally nuts

      • ndsipa_pomu 2 hours ago ago

        To be fair, bike lanes and cycling are inclusive and a surprisingly effective way to empower underclasses. When the safety bicycle was invented, it greatly empowered women who previously were more or less house-bound to be able to travel distances. This has been seen across several different cultures where the introduction of cycles leads to the empowerment of women.

        Here's a good quote from Susan B Anthony (famous Suffragette):

        "Let me tell you what I think of the bicycle. I think it has done more to emancipate women than anything else in the world. I stand and rejoice every time I see a woman ride by on a wheel. It gives a woman a feeling of freedom and self-reliance. It makes her feel as if she were independent. The moment she takes her seat she knows she can't get into harm unless she gets off her bicycle, and away she goes, the picture of free, untrammeled womanhood."

      • foco_tubi 11 hours ago ago

        I mean, the positive effects of road diets and bike lanes generally are pretty well settled, as the US DOT website used to claim.

      • jimbokun 11 hours ago ago

        Have you read some of the DSA’s policies?

        • foco_tubi 7 hours ago ago

          Which ones are you referring to?

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  • VariousPrograms 12 hours ago ago

    I have friends who despise cyclists but oppose bike lanes. Bike lanes would take cyclists out of your lane and into their own lane. Plus if more people start cycling because there's infrastructure, that's less car traffic in the way of your truck! It just seems like a win-win for everybody. I've given up hope on transportation in the USA. It certainly won't be fixed within my lifetime.

    • supern0va 11 hours ago ago

      Yep, I'm perfectly content to use the full lane if there's not another option. And that doesn't mean squeezing into the shoulder. No, that means riding left of center to prevent assholes from passing unsafely on my left.

      The funniest thing is that tactical use of bike lanes, neighborhood greenways, etc, actually serves to funnel cyclists into specific protected routes such that the majority of other roads have fewer cyclists utilizing them. From my home in Seattle, I can ride several miles to work on roads that were already low traffic volume, but which are faster because cyclists get priority, and cars get diverted away. Before this existed, I just used the main roads that cars did, because it was faster.

      Like, if you hate bicycles, you should love bicycle infrastructure. It's better for everyone.

      • jerlam 10 hours ago ago

        You are assuming that with or without bike infrastructure, there is a fixed number of cyclists.

        Many drivers either believe there are no cyclists; or that the number of cyclists should be reduced to zero, and they should drive instead, like normal people.

        Also, everything is zero-sum, so any money spent on bike infrastructure is less money spent to widen the freeways or subsidize parking.

    • electric_toucan 11 hours ago ago

      I think disliking cyclists is the core position for these people. They don’t want cyclists in the road and they don’t want to pay for infrastructure for cyclists, like bike lanes.

    • jimbokun 11 hours ago ago

      But as much as those people despise cyclists, bike lanes continue to proliferate in urban areas.

      Just because there is not unanimous support for good policies, doesn’t mean they can’t be implemented.

      Also a big win for local policy making, which used to be a preference of the right.

    • mmooss 11 hours ago ago

      Some people despise drug users on their streets but oppose safe injection (a.k.a. overdose prevention) sites, which would move the drug users indoors.

      It's often an act of power, like a mob. It's the corruption of power made viceral.

      > I've given up hope on transportation in the USA. It certainly won't be fixed within my lifetime.

      Exactly the response your enemies planned. Act aggressive enough and the other side will give in. You're their best friend when you do it and every time you post it.

    • pandaman 9 hours ago ago

      I don't know if you noticed that, but when they make bike lanes they don't cut them off the sidewalk, they cut them into the car lanes, either taking a lane out or making the existing lane very narrow. Unlike a cyclist, which you see once in a blue moon, the reduced lanes are there forever, you drive through them all the time. Does this explain the paradox to you?

      I, for one, cycle and still oppose bike lanes - they don't make cycling much safer (a car can easily jump a curb and most of these don't even have a curb, just some paint and plastic bollards in the best case) but impede traffic for everyone. If you want to increase cycling adoption you will piss off much fewer people and be 1000% more efficient by reigning in bike theft instead of building these lanes.

  • arjie 11 hours ago ago

    Good grief, this website is utter garbage. Keeps popping up the Support Us popup and crashed the iOS web view.

    But one thing that’s interesting with the administration’s approach to so many things is the removal of tools to get information. In the article (which works in brave which suppresses the pop up) they talk about this tool to collect information on how a crash occurred. I get wanting to change priorities. As a bicyclist I can understand if road space is optimized for other uses due to the predominant form of use.

    But I think one of the reasons the US is so prosperous is that we have here a reliable and high-quality data collection machine. The less you know about yourselves the worse you can achieve your objectives.

    Massive tragedy that data collection fell to ideology. Though the ideology is very funny. It sounds like an angry redditor!

    “This is a common sense approach despite the Left's belief that everyone should ride a bike to their shoebox-sized apartment to eat crickets to achieve a phony climate agenda”

  • mmooss 11 hours ago ago

    People who dislike this situation need to stop taking the Trump administration's (and allies') statements at face value, like David Harkey does in the article, and stop calling them crazy. Either way, they are playing you and distracting you, and you are inadvertently acting as their messengers.

    Using the universal analytical tool cui bono (more powerful than an LLM) and their own explicit words, there's a consistent, non-crazy strategy: Support the fossil fuel industry in every way possible (which appeals to some people; I'm not writing a critique; you should understand this.):

      * Destroy or acquire national competitors: Venezuala, Iran,
        even Nigeria
    
      * Buy off domestic competitors: using tax dollars to bribe
        renewable energy developments to stop
    
      * A million other policy and political actions, major and
        and minor; even opposing bike lanes.
    
    Regarding 'crazy', it's a form of aggression - demonstrating there is no length to which they won't go, to intimidate the other side into backing down. It's been the American neo-right rhetorical tactic going back decades - be aggressive, and if that doesn't work, be more aggressive. Because nobody else has figured out this very basic tactic (used by even by animals), people keep backing down and the tactic keeps working. You see people every day saying they are hopeless, tired, resigned, etc. Why would the neo-right stop - this is working amazingly well!

    (If you doubt it, see if my hypothesis predicts future events.)

  • goatlover 12 hours ago ago

    What's a "DEI bike lane"? Like woke, DEI has lost all meaning at the political level of discourse. It's just whatever the current regime dislikes.

    • Spooky23 11 hours ago ago

      In a nearby suburban town, the GOP Chair forced a referendum on a road project.

      New York has a complete streets program where bike lanes and pedestrian friendly crossings are included in most projects. Iirc 4-5 people have died crossing this road.

      The call to action was that “those people” would use the bike lanes to leave the city, connect to the Democrat bike trail and rape, murder and rob the townsfolk.

      Old fearful white people are terrified of this stuff.

      • foco_tubi 11 hours ago ago

        Yep. Beverly Hills and Bel Air used the same argument to rally against new subway development near UCLA.

      • klaff 11 hours ago ago

        So much racism.

      • mothballed 11 hours ago ago

        I think there's a good faith possibility here that the taxpayers just don't see themselves biking to "the hood" rather than some sinister plan against black people. I mean I wouldn't vote for a bike route to the white trash trailer park, not because I hate them but because there is no reason for me to bike there whereas I might bike to a nice gentrified district for some drinks.

        I would reframe most things more in terms of "what will I gain" to see how voters to vote, and new opportunities or bridges to bike to the hood gains them basically nothing.

        • maxerickson 10 hours ago ago

          Do you think there is any way to convince you to value a broader community of people?

        • Spooky23 10 hours ago ago

          It’s actually a super popular bike route as it’s a 20 minute path to the central business district downtown. And again, 4-5 people have lost their lives in as many years.

          In this case most of the hubbub was really about a pedestrian island that would block left turns to a business the guy was friends with. The woke people were out to get them for some reason, etc.

          The racist dog whistle was very deliberate and targeted at Nextdoor. The messaging in more mainstream outlets was about lane width reductions causing a traffic nightmare. It was almost taken from Blazing Saddles.

    • brentm 11 hours ago ago

      It's just a way to keep the culture war hot. They need people on Reddit mad, the media questioning what a DEI Bike Lane is and ridiculing, etc. The actual policy they've implemented, excluding the border, has so far been an abject disaster and even their own base is unhappy. "DEI Bike Lanes" is a way to throw their voters some red meat while stirring the pot.

    • f17428d27584 12 hours ago ago

      Making things better is Progressive, and Progressive is woke, and woke is DEI. So to fight back against DEI find the things that make peoples’ lives better (like bike lanes) and destroy them. Just tear them up, and you’ve won the culture war and saved America.

      This is the official GOP policy, the best of what the GOP has to offer. Fight friends, betray allies, threaten your neighbors, drop bombs, smash bike lanes.

      • foco_tubi 12 hours ago ago

        Not that there's any credence to the idea, but many residents of low-income neighborhoods in urban areas see bike lanes as a dinner bell for gentrification. Never mind that a ton of bicycle commuters in urban areas are from low-income neighborhoods themselves...

        • jimbokun 11 hours ago ago

          I will never understand the fight against “gentrification”. You want property values in your neighborhood to go DOWN?

          • hakfoo 9 hours ago ago

            Property values going up is only appealing if you own property.

            For renters, it means they're going to try to increase rents.

            For everyone, it presents a pressure on favourite local businesses-- higher costs, and an influx of well-bankrolled outside competitors.

          • foco_tubi 7 hours ago ago

            There are a myriad of sources available to help you understand.

            How to Kill a City is a good one.

          • cucumber3732842 9 hours ago ago

            Value of an illiquid asset doesn't help renters who don't own that asset or residents who aren't in a position to liquidate.

            Furthermore, the absolute last thing most of these communities need is an influx of people who have fewer big problems in their jurisdiction because those people always go right to work turning the screws of government on the poors and existing residents.

            I'm not saying vote against change at every turn, but given the choice between heavy industry and rich people I'm taking the heavy industry every damn time.

            • jimbokun 6 hours ago ago

              So White Flight was a good thing?

      • actionfromafar 12 hours ago ago

        Don't forget the children, more milk and less vaccines.

        • klaff 11 hours ago ago

          raw milk, unpasteurized, right?

    • quantified 11 hours ago ago

      Real Republicans do not bicycle. Plain and simple.

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  • diego_moita 11 hours ago ago

    The world desperately needs less "Murica". It needs the U.S. to be weaker, poorer, less powerful and less influential.

    And both Trump and Xi-Jiping are delivering just that, thanks God.

    • actionfromafar 11 hours ago ago

      The model seems to be Russia, which does not bode well for anyone.

      • breezybottom 11 hours ago ago

        In what way is Russia doing better than China?

        • apothegm 8 hours ago ago

          They’re not, but a certain faction of the US right is taking them as a model nonetheless — I’m assuming they covet the sort of power the oligarchs there enjoy.

        • protocolture 11 hours ago ago

          Whenever I see Russias ratty old aircraft carrier I kind of feel bad for them.

  • nomel 12 hours ago ago

    For a specific critique,

    > One of the safety tools that has been taken down is known as the Pedestrian and Bicycle Crash Analysis Tool, or PBCAT. As of Thursday, a link to the page that formerly hosted the tool on the FHWA website was dead.

    Was it actually being used? Is there an alternative/better data source? Is it the only one?

    https://catsip.berkeley.edu/resources/crash-data/crash-data-...

    Lists 7 federal reporting methods. Why aren't these sufficient? Why was this one special? Why are there so many!?

    Who knows what the actual story is behind this, but it won't be found here!

    I'm not sure what changed at NPR, but there seems to be a heavy lean towards emotion now rather than depth. In the past, when I've looking into these sort of framings, they often give a completely different perspective that could have been reported.