24 comments

  • pelorat 31 minutes ago ago

    > EU rules on AI models become enforceable. What's going to change?

    I can answer that. A higher regulatory overhead that means less money for R&D and decreased profit margins for companies here in the EU. That's what's going to happen.

    • xinayder a minute ago ago

      If your sole business model depends on having no regulation then your business model is wrong and predatory.

      Regulation doesn't hinder innovation, it's just that CEOs want that quick buck instead of being responsible and using regulation for their advantage.

    • WarmWash 12 minutes ago ago

      Also going to have to compete against SOTA AI augmented American companies. Which likely means using Chinese models.

      Thank god Xi Jinpeng has the best interests of Europe at heart...

    • DarkNova6 15 minutes ago ago

      Thanks, now I don't need to even read the article!

    • moffkalast 6 minutes ago ago

      Mistral's already in the gutter, so not much change overall.

  • sixtyj an hour ago ago

    > The rulebook sets out rules for all models that lack a specific purpose but can be adapted to a variety of use cases, requiring transparency on how a model was built, disclosure of any copyright-protected content used for training, and enough information for downstream users to understand the model's capabilities.

    Re. disclosure: How do they want to do it? It seems to be similar to a “disclosure” used in students’ works: “Source: internet”…

    • Retr0id 40 minutes ago ago

      No copyright intended

  • cubefox a minute ago ago

    > In practice, for European consumers and businesses, that might mean some of the most advanced AI models launch in the EU a few weeks later than in other markets, as firms ensure they have done their compliance homework.

    As models become more capable, this could have serious economic consequences. :(

  • j45 35 minutes ago ago

    The doers vs talkers of who can make AI accurate and consistent will step forward.

  • kamma4434 an hour ago ago

    New pop-ups and more unreadable clauses you have to agree to. Remember GDPR?

    • elcdodedocle 40 minutes ago ago

      GDPR is more than that. Consent or not, there are things bad actors can do in the USA that in the EU they just can't. Specially to children and vulnerable people. GDPR is an integral part of it. This is a small but significant first step in the right direction. Long way ahead still.

      • hellisothers 7 minutes ago ago

        Maybe but it feels like 1 step forward and 2 steps back. It feels like in the end they’re (companies) still getting 99% of what they had before and the user experience of everything is much worse.

      • dev_l1x_be 12 minutes ago ago

        Yes I used it when Confluence had a bug and an account with got stuck and there was no way to delete my account of finish the registration. So I issued a GDPR delete request and re-created the account. tada.wav

        • MaxMatti 9 minutes ago ago

          I've heard lots of people use it to actually find out what you were being banned for even when the company absolutely does not want to disclose it.

    • watwut 16 minutes ago ago

      GDPR is actually good directive. Despite perpetual campaign against it from HN users who would like to abuse other peoples data.

    • embedding-shape 40 minutes ago ago

      Remember when HN used to have somewhat informed users? The trite cookie popups have nothing to do with GDPR, this has been repeated ad nauseam...

      • jstummbillig 11 minutes ago ago

        GDPR (and ePrivacy before that) requires valid prior consent where optional tracking is used. A site using only technically necessary storage can simply have no consent banner. A business wanting advertising and analytics trackers generally needs some consent interface.

        "Not a requirement under GDPR", yes, but certainly not "nothing to do with GDPR". It directly has to do with GDPR, in conjunction with business' decisions and how to comply with the law.

        And of course, we can then argue our faces off about what's good and necessary in the world, in businesses and data protection, but saying it has nothing to do with it is just wrong.

      • DarkNova6 14 minutes ago ago

        This being downvoted speaks saddens my heart... and proves the exact intent of the message.

      • watwut 15 minutes ago ago

        This is heavily downvoted ... and still accurate.

      • dgellow 35 minutes ago ago

        It’s insane how that misinformation doesn’t want to die. In 100y we will still have people repeating that we get popup because of gdpr, and nobody will know what a popup or gdpr is

        • Retr0id 26 minutes ago ago

          Is it really misinformation? The popups may largely be a result of misunderstandings or malicious compliance, but GDPR has a causal relationship regardless of the intent.

          • inigyou 11 minutes ago ago

            When the city writes an ordinance saying chemical factories must have fire alarms I do not blame the city for the fire alarm noise.

            • Retr0id 2 minutes ago ago

              I would however blame them if they wrote an ordinance that was widely misunderstood to mean that someone had to knock on my door each day to make sure I knew the local chemical factory had a fire alarm.

          • watwut 11 minutes ago ago

            Popups have nothing to do with GDPR. They are reaction to Privacy and Electronic Communications Directive which predates GDPR.

            And yes, it is deliberate misinformation.