The University as We Know It Is Finished

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14 points | by seregine 11 hours ago ago

6 comments

  • theamk 9 hours ago ago

    This is such a grand title, but the conclusions are surprisingly tame.

    - The take-home projects and papers are useless for grading purposes because of AI cheating. Time for more oral exams.

    Yep, the only real change from AI. This used to be $50/page from diploma mill and this was expensive enough to dissuade most people. Now it's almost free, and cheating is rampant.

    I think author's hope for oral exams is too optimistic, that is too expensive. Good old written exams, either in blue books or on special locked-down devices, proctored to prevent cheating, will be a way to go.

    - It makes no sense for professors to stand in front of large classes and deliver lectures. They should do small, interactive seminars.

    I don't see what this has to do with AI? Ever since VCR was invented, professors doing non-interactive lectures could be replaced with recordings. Either there is a "human element" in those, in which case it's still there, AI or not; or it's just pure information transfer, in which case AI is just an inferior version of recorded lecture with worse presentation style and hallucinations.

    - Professors should teach about AI, include how to prompt efficiently and how to critically scrutinize the output

    100% agree, as with any important technology. But this is just a small curriculum change, just one more topic to cover in the lecture, and maybe a class.

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    Overall, I believe that modern university is pretty bad and should be changed, but I hardly think that AI made this problem significantly worse, and this essay really did not convince me of that.

    • evan_a_a 9 hours ago ago

      >>Professors should teach about AI, include how to prompt efficiently and how to critically scrutinize the output

      >100% agree, as with any important technology. But this is just a small curriculum change, just one more topic to cover in the lecture, and maybe a class.

      Critically scrutinizing LLM output is just critical thinking skills, something universities should already teach.

    • dzhiurgis 3 hours ago ago

      > I think author's hope for oral exams is too optimistic, that is too expensive.

      Ironically AI is perfect for quizzing you.

  • danny_codes 10 hours ago ago

    We let the university model degrade, and now this author is pontificating about how the university model isn't working.

    Yes.

    Because we let it degrade.

  • euroderf 8 hours ago ago

    I like the emphasis on the development of the individual as a mentally co-ordinated cognitive whole.

    Carbon-based lifeforms gotta give the silicon-based a run for their money.

  • npl 10 hours ago ago

    I like the critique of the problem - unclear how many model releases the proposed solution helps (or should help, looks at student loan balance) the economic structure of a university survive.