CIA Report Warns Israel Could Head Toward Civil War, Total Collapse

(dropsitenews.com)

23 points | by lorecore 11 hours ago ago

20 comments

  • jameshilliard 4 hours ago ago

    > The Red Cell, which is the unit responsible for providing “alternative analysis” within the agency, produced the assessment through a combination of open source information and U.S. intelligence.

    So is this article describing a war game sort of thing where units create staged scenarios for gaming out future crisis responses?[0]

    [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Cell

  • WokeUp420 6 hours ago ago

    We could only hope

  • berygul 7 hours ago ago

    Who knew fake news can be popular on HN? Obviously only when it comes to one topic due to wishful thinking by the haters.

    • verdverm 7 hours ago ago

      Did you create this account an hour ago to specifically comment on posts critical of Israel?

      As a new account, please review the submission and comment guidelines

      https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

      • berygul 6 hours ago ago

        Thanks for pointing that out. There are several accounts here that are primarily focused on posting anti-Israel content, such as the original poster of this story.

        > on posts critical of Israel

        This post is not really “critical” of Israel. It’s low quality fake news slop that’s only getting upvoted because the fantasy of it is getting some people excited.

        • verdverm 6 hours ago ago

          posting the truth about Israel's crimes is not de facto "anti"

          The world sees, that's why we are turning away. My Jewish friends see and agree, several are traveling to vote in Oct.

          What Israel has been doing is unacceptable to most humans, reflecting on this is helpful.

  • gfrecvh 7 hours ago ago

    Oh no! Not Israel, that bastion of freedom and human rights!

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  • chews 10 hours ago ago

    one can only hope, this broken version of democrazy has really over extended themselves into rationalizing some of the worst behavior in modern times... The collusion between their leadership and American lobbyists has been a terrible look for America, and fortunately we live in a world where access to information has outpaced their ability to control the narrative. Boomers really let the future down man.

    • jameshilliard 8 hours ago ago

      > one can only hope

      I'm curious, do you actually think Civil War and Total Collapse in Israel could realistically lead to a good outcome for anyone in the region, including Palestinians? Is there even a remotely plausible scenario resembling a good outcome that could result from a Civil War and Total Collapse?

      • ArizonaJoe 8 hours ago ago

        Yes, Israel is not a real country. It was forced into a region of the world after ww2. It does not survive any situation where the US does not help and it almost certainly does not survive the next 100 years just due to time and never being a real country to begin with.

        • AnimalMuppet 8 hours ago ago

          By your standard, how many "real countries" are there?

      • chews 7 hours ago ago

        Have you ever formatted your hard drive and installed linux...

      • lorecore 7 hours ago ago

        Not only would it be good for the Middle East, it would be good for the entire planet. Imagine a US without Zionist influence?

        • jameshilliard 4 hours ago ago

          > Not only would it be good for the Middle East, it would be good for the entire planet.

          How would Civil War and Total Collapse of a nuclear armed state be good for the entire planet? Has Civil War with a Total Collapse of the state in general led to good outcomes anywhere?

          > Imagine a US without Zionist influence?

          What actual difference do you think that would make?

          • lorecore 4 hours ago ago

            Nuclear armed Israel? They literally stole enriched uranium from the US to make that happen. Israel is nothing but a non-stop series of crimes against humanity.

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_affair

            • jameshilliard 3 hours ago ago

              > Nuclear armed Israel?

              Right, I'm curious how would Civil War and Total Collapse of a nuclear armed state like Israel be good for the entire planet as you've suggested?

              > They literally stole enriched uranium from the US to make that happen.

              I think there's probably more evidence that the Israeli nuclear weapons program initially was developed mostly in cooperation with France. After France stopped supplying fuel in the wake of the 1967 war apparently Israel did steal yellowcake from a Belgian mining company.[0]

              [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Plumbat

              • lorecore 3 hours ago ago

                Yes, Israel has spied on and stolen nuclear material from many countries, answering your own question as to why the world will be better off without them.

                • jameshilliard 3 hours ago ago

                  > Yes, Israel has spied on and stolen nuclear material from many countries

                  I'm pretty sure most countries spy on many countries.

                  > answering your own question as to why the world will be better off without them.

                  That wasn't my question, the question was how would Civil War and Total Collapse of a nuclear armed state like Israel be good for the entire planet as you've suggested?

            • rekttrader 3 hours ago ago

              In fairness, the US probably watched it fall off the back of a truck.