RPKI now protects 70% of internet routes

(ipinfo.io)

41 points | by emot 2 hours ago ago

10 comments

  • cowlevel an hour ago ago

    My concern about RPKI is legal pressure on the registries. By centralising all of Russia's allowed routes on a database server in the Netherlands and automatically enforcing it, it's trivial for the Dutch government to cut off Russia's internet access by tampering with that database.

    • aftbit 2 minutes ago ago

      Certificate revocation as an act of war... the 2030s are gonna be wild.

    • mzajc 44 minutes ago ago

      I'm sure there's several ways in which ICANN and RIPE could screw Russia over. I'm also sure (or at least hopeful) they understand this would achieve nothing outside of creating a splinternet.

    • ggm 44 minutes ago ago

      So a highly specific problem couched in terms of the legal obligations of the registry. But,you ignore the other dimension of WHY a legal authority might require a registry to act.

      Do you honestly think the world would be better if there was no international law, or legal constraints on ISPs? Do you think BGP operators are somehow supra legal?

      The registry system we live in has operated for almost 3 decades now, an inheritance of a prior informal arrangement. It's a mutuality. If you want to change it, get involved in it's policy process.

      • adastra22 24 minutes ago ago

        The internet is supposed to be a decentralized network.

        • yndoendo a minute ago ago

          When ISPs have so much control, I don't see it as decentralized.

          It is designed for fallbacks or ability to reroute when connections become congested or get cut.

          Real world decentralized communication would not require an ISP and could operate by proxy with multi modes of communication. This way you can circumvent Government restrictions.

          Sneaker net is decentralized and how North Koreans circumvent their government.

      • yipinwong 3 minutes ago ago

        This is what happens when someone wants to regulate the crap outta everything. what a dumb ass take.

      • kortilla a few seconds ago ago

        >Do you honestly think the world would be better if there was no international law, or legal constraints on ISPs? Do you think BGP operators are somehow supra legal?

        Yes. It was the vision of the internet to continue on outside of the whatever political whims some tiny slice of western governments.

        It’s just too ripe for abuse.

        You can make whatever “whatabout” arguments on DNS, etc but none of those are required to get connectivity (DHT, p2p hosts, tor names, etc).

        Any centralization around the narrow middle IP layer of the internet should be treated with extreme skepticism and pushback.

      • daishi55 21 minutes ago ago

        I don’t think that one country should get to unilaterally decide whether another country gets internet, no.

    • stouset 44 minutes ago ago

      I get your broader point, but making it potentially easier to cut Russia specifically off from the Internet might not be the worst thing in the world.