I caught Microsoft Defender uploading my unreleased software without asking

(garrettstimpson.ca)

41 points | by gary23w 10 hours ago ago

19 comments

  • AngryData 5 hours ago ago

    Not surprised. Just the other day I found Defender using a significant portion of my CPU, which was curious because I have Defender disabled. Did a virus and malware scan thinking it was some other program calling itself Defender, nothing. Double checked windows antivirus settings, claims it is disabled. So off to google which leads me to more ways to hard disable Defender, and it worked confirming Defender was used as a screen by Microsoft for a more nefarious process. There is nothing legitimate defender could have been doing to be using so much CPU and memory when the antivirus capabilities were disabled.

    So basically, paranoia confirmed.

    • gruez 4 hours ago ago

      >So off to google which leads me to more ways to hard disable Defender, and it worked confirming Defender was used as a screen by Microsoft for a more nefarious process

      Why immediately jump to "screen by Microsoft for a more nefarious process"? It sounds like you were sloppy with your initial disabling (or more charitably, microsoft dark patterns), so you actually disabled "real time protection" or whatever, rather than everything.

  • MiroslavPokorny 9 hours ago ago

    Please kill the background "green rain" animation after 10 seconds or something.

  • ryanjshaw 5 hours ago ago

    > I object to uploading my unreleased builds under that default.

    How is Defender supposed to know the origin of an exe on disk?

    • hulitu 5 hours ago ago

      > How is Defender supposed to know the origin of an exe on disk?

      Like any antivirus program did 30 years ago. I know, SW is hard at Microsoft but ...

      • cowlevel 4 hours ago ago

        30 years ago they couldn't upload it because you didn't have an internet connection, but if everyone did it would have, because they didn't know the origin of an exe file 30 years ago either.

        • nmeagent 3 hours ago ago

          > 30 years ago they couldn't upload it because you didn't have an internet connection

          No, in 1996 it's extremely likely that they did have an Internet connection, though probably a crummy dialup one.

          • ChrisRR an hour ago ago

            Not in 1996 it wasn't "extremely likely". A quick google tells me that in the UK for example 3% of homes had internet connections in 1996

            • tcfhgj an hour ago ago

              And how many used a computer?

              • ChrisRR 17 minutes ago ago

                29% of UK homes owned a computer in 1996. So about 10% of those computers were internet connected

  • surfingdino 6 hours ago ago

    Why I haven't trusted Microsoft for over 20 years now.

  • nikolay 6 hours ago ago

    This reads like an ad.

  • tosti 5 hours ago ago

    Abort, Retry, Fail, Install Linux?

    (Or ameliorated )

    • herbst 21 minutes ago ago

      I am always confused when people complain about windows but actually use it. Just why?

  • poly2it 6 hours ago ago

    Is this an ad or is the author genuinely surprised by this?

  • pentakkusu 3 hours ago ago

    I mean, it kind of makes sense. In any case, stop using Windows.

  • LateCheckOut 6 hours ago ago

    sl-op