> It is made to sit in a split next to your AI agents. They can send you short messages that show up in the game, so you can play while they work.
> Agent messages
> Your AI agents can message you inside the game. A message costs the agent only the words in it, and nothing prints on success. Messages wait while the game is closed.
It's kinda amazing how the ancient "local mail" technology keeps getting reinvented, you know, and reintegrated inside the gameplay? NetHack had its its "mail demon" since... (googles) version 1.0.2, in April 1985 — the creature would spawn in the game, deliver you a scroll of mail, and vanish. And apparently, it's still in use nowadays? "On public servers such as nethack.alt.org, a user may observe other users' games and communicate with them by sending mail."
wow, i didn't know about NetHack, that's pretty damn cool!
and yeah, genuinely insane how we came full-circle lol... on terminactory it uses claude code hooks, with an optional "tfac msg" command (tried to minimize token usage, hence the hook)
but yeah, the netHack thing is pretty cool, guess you learn something new every day? xD
There are, but I was trying to make the game for a more general audience. I'd be willing to add another game model with more realism, and some more processes too, if you'd be interested.
I just don't see much appeal for such games.. If it's liked substantially by a few people, I'll add it as a gamemode, otherwise it feels like catering to a non-existent crowd :/
but, now that you mention it, I'll look into adding it soon, thanks!
that's a good point, actually. the features that differentiate terminactory from.. say, factorio, is the agent telegrams, the lore behind the game (optional, it's a factory game, with a lot to discover story-wise, in-game), and some other QOL features ("blueprint" that let you copy paste sections, with mirroring and rotating, unlockable on the early game; selecting a large area and deleting it, and a few more)
of course, it's not objectively better than any game, but there are a few separating qualities from the average popular factory game xD
well, that is an INSANE amount of praise, thank you so much! but yes, the ASCII art was inspired by Dwarf Fortress, Cataclysm, and a few other games :D
That was CP437 squeezed into a terminal emulator that ran sixteen or so OpenGL calls per character. I spent a couple months building a shim library to optimise it, before Toady let me fix the game. :p
Real terminal output ought to be faster, but don’t sleep on Kitty.
If it runs fast and low resource, it could be a nice testbed for agent architectures. I'm thinking old-school planners, genetic programming, ML techniques, etc.
Especially integrating planners or logic-based approaches with ML models. The old architectures for StarCraft were great at building and micro-managing units but terrible at assessing or adapting to enemy strategy. Hybrid architectures can address that.
Games like yours, esp different styles or requirements, can be used to prove how well the techniques generalize.
that's a good idea, I could definitely see this and games like this as agent benchmarks, like an ARC-AGI but it rotates amongst strategy / long-horizon sandbox games, so we don't have benchmaxxing..
It's a good direction though, I'll take this into consideration in future versions :D
> It is made to sit in a split next to your AI agents. They can send you short messages that show up in the game, so you can play while they work.
> Agent messages
> Your AI agents can message you inside the game. A message costs the agent only the words in it, and nothing prints on success. Messages wait while the game is closed.
It's kinda amazing how the ancient "local mail" technology keeps getting reinvented, you know, and reintegrated inside the gameplay? NetHack had its its "mail demon" since... (googles) version 1.0.2, in April 1985 — the creature would spawn in the game, deliver you a scroll of mail, and vanish. And apparently, it's still in use nowadays? "On public servers such as nethack.alt.org, a user may observe other users' games and communicate with them by sending mail."
I guess it's a variation on jwz's old aphorism:
> Every program attempts to expand until it can read mail. Those programs which cannot so expand are replaced by ones which can.
wow, i didn't know about NetHack, that's pretty damn cool!
and yeah, genuinely insane how we came full-circle lol... on terminactory it uses claude code hooks, with an optional "tfac msg" command (tried to minimize token usage, hence the hook)
but yeah, the netHack thing is pretty cool, guess you learn something new every day? xD
Why every factory game is about mining/smelting iron and copper? Aren't there more intersting industrial processes?
There are, but I was trying to make the game for a more general audience. I'd be willing to add another game model with more realism, and some more processes too, if you'd be interested. I just don't see much appeal for such games.. If it's liked substantially by a few people, I'll add it as a gamemode, otherwise it feels like catering to a non-existent crowd :/
but, now that you mention it, I'll look into adding it soon, thanks!
It's an interesting game, I love the hacker-like look to it. But is the only value proposition here that it runs in a terminal?
To me, it could be interesting for ~10 minutes, and I'd then prefer playing a game like Factorio.
that's a good point, actually. the features that differentiate terminactory from.. say, factorio, is the agent telegrams, the lore behind the game (optional, it's a factory game, with a lot to discover story-wise, in-game), and some other QOL features ("blueprint" that let you copy paste sections, with mirroring and rotating, unlockable on the early game; selecting a large area and deleting it, and a few more)
of course, it's not objectively better than any game, but there are a few separating qualities from the average popular factory game xD
Blueprints with those features are a major feature of Factorio.
sorry for the blatant autocorrect artifacts, typing on my phone rn :/
Reminds me of Dwarf Fortress's original ASCII UI
well, that is an INSANE amount of praise, thank you so much! but yes, the ASCII art was inspired by Dwarf Fortress, Cataclysm, and a few other games :D
Arguably it might not be. :p
That was CP437 squeezed into a terminal emulator that ran sixteen or so OpenGL calls per character. I spent a couple months building a shim library to optimise it, before Toady let me fix the game. :p
Real terminal output ought to be faster, but don’t sleep on Kitty.
Nice! I wonder if you could have an option to use the icons available in Nerd Fonts in addition to plain ascii?
that sounds doable, i'll add it as an opt-in for the next batch of changes. thanks for the idea!
wonder if you could turn a custom fond into map pieces
If it runs fast and low resource, it could be a nice testbed for agent architectures. I'm thinking old-school planners, genetic programming, ML techniques, etc.
Especially integrating planners or logic-based approaches with ML models. The old architectures for StarCraft were great at building and micro-managing units but terrible at assessing or adapting to enemy strategy. Hybrid architectures can address that.
Games like yours, esp different styles or requirements, can be used to prove how well the techniques generalize.
that's a good idea, I could definitely see this and games like this as agent benchmarks, like an ARC-AGI but it rotates amongst strategy / long-horizon sandbox games, so we don't have benchmaxxing..
It's a good direction though, I'll take this into consideration in future versions :D
Pretty neat looking! I'll need to try it out on Monday ;)
i hope you enjoy it! it'll be an excellent monday, that's for sure ;)